[ale] It sorta

[Wolf Halton]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:25 AM, leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wolf Halton <wolf.halton at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Wolf Halton <wolf.halton at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a linux box that I yes for a shell-scripting base and not much
>>>>> else. Does anybody have an idea of an opensource dev framework? There are a
>>>>> few php frameworks and that is interesting, but mostly I have done stuff
>>>>> with python, html and shell scripting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wolf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to have a place that makes it easy to test our web coding
>>> without having to give lots of systems-level permission to anybody.  A
>>> workshed for code.  Currently our main web apps are coded in perl and
>>> javascript over postgresql.  So something along the lines of w3schools with
>>> a perl element.
>>>
>>
>
> Well, while I have an opinion or two, you might be better off seeing my
> thought process behind what I do. That way you can pick the parts that may
> work for you and discard the rest.
>
> In the interviews these past weeks I've seen a lot of movement
> towards Continuous Integration/Continuous Deployment. That's gotten me to
> thinking about automated checkout from version control and reduced human
> interactions. I don't have a great plan for it yet, but if I were thinking
>  about frameworks I'd look at CherryPy for Python or Zend Framework for
> PHP. The former is lighter weight than some Python frameworks, the latter
> is the standard fully supported framework. My own tendency is to use PHP
> when computers are talking to people. If I were looking at something for
> training then perhaps Moodle. CakePHP is another PHP framework that gets
> good marks from people.
>
> Since I've not worked with Perl web stuff for a long time, and if you want
> to stay Perl, I'd really look towards the automated deployment scheme. The
> issue would be to ensure the web service owner does not have more
> permissions than required, or if you're really paranoid (and what good
> sysadmin isn't?)  you can include an over writing of critical files and
> permissions after any automated deployment.
>
> Hope that doesn't muddy the thought waters too much.
>
> Leam
>
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Leam,
This does not muddy the water at all! Suggestions with rationalization of
reasons why the options might be useful actually clear the water, I'm
afraid.  I can set up a fun park - maybe 2 or 3 frameworks that do
different things, as long as I don't have to install a different OS to run
it all (Debian Squeeze currently).

Wolf

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