<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:25 AM, leam hall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leamhall@gmail.com" target="_blank">leamhall@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wolf Halton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolf.halton@gmail.com" target="_blank">wolf.halton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Wolf Halton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolf.halton@gmail.com" target="_blank">wolf.halton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><p>I have a linux box that I yes for a shell-scripting base and not much else. Does anybody have an idea of an opensource dev framework? There are a few php frameworks and that is interesting, but mostly I have done stuff with python, html and shell scripting. </p>
<p>Wolf </p>
<p><br></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="im">I want to have a place that makes it easy to test our web coding without
having to give lots of systems-level permission to anybody. A workshed
for code. Currently our main web apps are coded in perl and javascript
over postgresql. So something along the lines of w3schools with a perl
element. <br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Well, while I have an opinion or two, you might be better off seeing my thought process behind what I do. That way you can pick the parts that may work for you and discard the rest. <div>
<br></div><div>In the interviews these past weeks I've seen a lot of movement towards Continuous Integration/Continuous Deployment. That's gotten me to thinking about automated checkout from version control and reduced human interactions. I don't have a great plan for it yet, but if I were thinking about frameworks I'd look at CherryPy for Python or Zend Framework for PHP. The former is lighter weight than some Python frameworks, the latter is the standard fully supported framework. My own tendency is to use PHP when computers are talking to people. If I were looking at something for training then perhaps Moodle. CakePHP is another PHP framework that gets good marks from people. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Since I've not worked with Perl web stuff for a long time, and if you want to stay Perl, I'd really look towards the automated deployment scheme. The issue would be to ensure the web service owner does not have more permissions than required, or if you're really paranoid (and what good sysadmin isn't?) you can include an over writing of critical files and permissions after any automated deployment. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Hope that doesn't muddy the thought waters too much.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Leam</div></font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><br clear="all">
<div><br></div>-- <br><div><a href="http://leamhall.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Mind on a Mission</a></div>
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<br></blockquote></div><br>Leam,<br>This does not muddy the water at all! Suggestions with rationalization of reasons why the options might be useful actually clear the water, I'm afraid. I can set up a fun park - maybe 2 or 3 frameworks that do different things, as long as I don't have to install a different OS to run it all (Debian Squeeze currently).<br>
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