[ale] We Win, We Win!!!
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Tue Apr 6 13:24:11 EDT 2021
Point very well made.
Still feel a bit like a frog in a pot on the stove.
On April 6, 2021 12:54:07 PM EDT, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
>Of course they are two gigantic asshole companies. What we won was the
>*principle* that APIs are not copyrightable. That means that an Open
>Source instantiation of a published Closed-Source API is safe from
>threats. You won't be Sued into Oblivion if you, for example, write an
>implementation of Java that uses Java's libraries without reference to
>Oracle's code (e.g. http://openjdk.java.net/ ), or a C stdlib
>implementation which doesn't reference AT&T's old code ( e.g.
>http://clang.org/, https://gcc.gnu.org/ ). You can't be hounded for
>license fees if you **use** that implementation instead of the
>This heads off a major danger to pretty much any software development,
>proprietary or Open Source. Imagine the consequences if AT&T started
>selling licenses to C's stdlib API -- so you couldn't use printf(1)
>paying them a fee, for example, or so the prototype (e.g. the name and
>arguments) of a call to rename a file suddenly became proprietary.
>Judge William Alsup is kind of my Hero -- and this vindicates his
>decision. You can read about why he's a Cool Dude (
>). The two dissenting Supremes ( Thomas and Alito) are luddite
>Boomer idiots who don't understand the issue.
>On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:20 AM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>> Oracle: death by flaying
>> Google: death by slow boil
>> Me: No. No! NO!
>> On April 6, 2021 2:22:57 AM EDT, Steve Litt via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>>> Charles Shapiro via Ale said on Mon, 5 Apr 2021 19:14:21 -0400
>>> The Supremes have ruled on Oracle V Google. Judge Alsup is
>>> How did we win? How does one pick sides between two gigantic asshole
>>> monopolies? I mean yeah, I despise Ellison, but Google's not my
>>> for citizen of the year.
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