[ale] We Win, We Win!!!

[Jim Kinney]

Point very well made.

Still feel a bit like a frog in a pot on the stove.

On April 6, 2021 12:54:07 PM EDT, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
>Of course they are two gigantic asshole companies.  What we won was the
>*principle* that APIs are not copyrightable.  That means that an Open
>Source instantiation of a published Closed-Source API is safe from
>legal
>threats.  You won't be Sued into Oblivion if you, for example, write an
>implementation of Java that uses Java's libraries without reference to
>Oracle's code (e.g. http://openjdk.java.net/ ), or a C stdlib
>implementation which doesn't reference AT&T's old code ( e.g.
>http://clang.org/, https://gcc.gnu.org/ ).  You can't  be hounded for
>license fees if you **use** that implementation instead of the
>proprietary
>one.
>
>This heads off a major danger to pretty much any software development,
>proprietary or Open Source.  Imagine the consequences if AT&T started
>selling licenses to C's stdlib API -- so you couldn't use printf(1)
>without
>paying them a fee, for example, or so the prototype (e.g. the name and
>the
>arguments) of a call to rename a file suddenly became proprietary. 
>It'd be
>Dramatic.
>
>Judge William Alsup is kind of my Hero -- and this vindicates his
>original
>decision.  You can read about why he's a Cool Dude (
>https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/19/16503076/oracle-vs-google-judge-william-alsup-interview-waymo-uber
>).  The two dissenting Supremes ( Thomas and Alito) are luddite
>neanderthal
>Boomer idiots who don't understand the issue.
>
>-- CHS
>
>
>On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:20 AM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> Oracle: death by flaying
>> Google: death by slow boil
>> Me: No. No! NO!
>>
>> On April 6, 2021 2:22:57 AM EDT, Steve Litt via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Charles Shapiro via Ale said on Mon, 5 Apr 2021 19:14:21 -0400
>>>
>>> The Supremes have ruled on Oracle V Google.  Judge Alsup is
>Vindicated.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-05/
>>>>
><https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-05/supreme-court-overturns-oracle-s-copyright-win-over-google>
>>>> supreme-court-overturns-oracle-s-copyright-win-over-google
>>>>
>>>
>>> How did we win? How does one pick sides between two gigantic asshole
>>> monopolies? I mean yeah, I despise Ellison, but Google's not my
>nominee
>>> for citizen of the year.
>>>
>>> SteveT
>>>
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