[ale] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Georgia Absentee voting request

[Derek Atkins]

I didn't even think about trying that, but they have all these signs
saying "no cell phones" so I feel like I would have been yelled at if they
caught me doing that.

-derek


On Wed, August 26, 2020 5:19 pm, Sean Kilpatrick via Ale wrote:
> I wonder if the QR app on my cell phone could read the voting machine
> output?  If so, it would make for an easy verification.
>
> Sean
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> Online voting.
>>
>> Ugh. Horrible idea.
>>
>> On August 26, 2020 2:17:27 PM EDT, "Scott M. Jones via Ale"
>> <ale at ale.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/26/20 1:33 PM, Derek Atkins via Ale wrote:
>>>
>>>> HI,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, August 26, 2020 1:29 pm, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/26/20 1:02 PM, Leam Hall via Ale wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  If you are physically able to vote in person, I would encourage you
>>>>>>  to do so. I have seen too many failures in the postal system to
>>>>>>  trust them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Which doesn't really mean I trust the walk-in totally, but it's a
>>>>>>  little more than the nothing the USPS gets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I won't be using any Georgia voting machine that doesn't provide
>>>>>  paper output.
>>>>>  Georgia voting machines do NOT have a paper trail.
>>>>>  https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_state
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ACTUALLY.....  They do now.  At least the voting machine I used
>>>> earlier
>>>> this month for the Fulton County runoff election had a paper trail!
>>>> It
>>>> uses a touch screen to make selections but then when I'm done it
>>>> prints
>>>> out a piece of paper with a QR code and my ballot selections.  I
>>>> validated
>>>> my selections on the printout and then took it to a scanner where I
>>>> fed it
>>>> in.
>>>>
>>>> Unacceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is more acceptable now; your data it out of date.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is something I was working on with Electronic Frontiers Georgia.
>>> Unfortunately the enabling law for "ballot marking devices" does not
>>> define the vote of record to be the human-readable votes that are
>>> printed on the paper.  Instead it allows the vote of record to be the
>>> proprietary bar code.  There were many problems with that legislation,
>>> but I saw that as being the most fatal of the flaws.  It was not
>>> something we were able to change.  The only thing we were able to kill
>>> in that bill was a pilot for online voting, for military overseas.
>>>
>>> -Scott
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