[ale] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Georgia Absentee voting request

[Sean Kilpatrick]

I wonder if the QR app on my cell phone could read the voting machine
output?  If so, it would make for an easy verification.

Sean

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> Online voting.
>
> Ugh. Horrible idea.
>
> On August 26, 2020 2:17:27 PM EDT, "Scott M. Jones via Ale" <ale at ale.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/26/20 1:33 PM, Derek Atkins via Ale wrote:
>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> On Wed, August 26, 2020 1:29 pm, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/26/20 1:02 PM, Leam Hall via Ale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  If you are physically able to vote in person, I would encourage you
>>>>>  to do so. I have seen too many failures in the postal system to
>>>>>  trust them.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Which doesn't really mean I trust the walk-in totally, but it's a
>>>>>  little more than the nothing the USPS gets.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I won't be using any Georgia voting machine that doesn't provide
>>>>  paper output.
>>>>  Georgia voting machines do NOT have a paper trail.
>>>>  https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_state
>>>>
>>>
>>> ACTUALLY.....  They do now.  At least the voting machine I used earlier
>>> this month for the Fulton County runoff election had a paper trail!  It
>>> uses a touch screen to make selections but then when I'm done it prints
>>> out a piece of paper with a QR code and my ballot selections.  I validated
>>> my selections on the printout and then took it to a scanner where I fed it
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Unacceptable.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is more acceptable now; your data it out of date.
>>>
>>
>> This is something I was working on with Electronic Frontiers Georgia.
>> Unfortunately the enabling law for "ballot marking devices" does not
>> define the vote of record to be the human-readable votes that are
>> printed on the paper.  Instead it allows the vote of record to be the
>> proprietary bar code.  There were many problems with that legislation,
>> but I saw that as being the most fatal of the flaws.  It was not
>> something we were able to change.  The only thing we were able to kill
>> in that bill was a pilot for online voting, for military overseas.
>>
>> -Scott
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