[ale] Fwd: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet

Thu Dec 10 12:21:58 EST 2015

So the common thing between this two guys is basically they know how to
work with money ...

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Sean Kilpatrick <kilpatms at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think I can speak to this a little bit.
>
> I left Windows with 3.1 and ran to OS/2, which at the time was miles
> ahead, technically, of Windows.  I was still with OS/2 when I moved to
> Atlanta in 1998 and by that time the IBM OS actually had speech
> recognition working along with many other features that Windows kept
> advertising -- but not delivering.
>
> I left OS/2 for Linux when IBM basically ended support for OS/2.
>
> The main reason IBM could not compete with Bill Gates when offering an
> operating system for personal computers had nothing to do with the OS
> itself and EVERYTHING to do with corporate understanding of how to
> market to the personal computer market. Basically IBM marketers had no
> clue. They only understood Big Iron.  At every turn Microsoft clobbered
> IBM with advertising and paid shills.  Microsoft would wildly claim that
> new features were coming with the next release (features that OS/2 had
> offered for months if not years) and then not deliver as promised.
>
> I do not understand the charge that OS/2 required beefier equipment than
> Windows.  I NEVER owned a computer with the latest and greatest CPU and
> maximum memory and OS/2 ran just fine on the second or third rate
> equipment I could afford.
>
> Sean
>
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>
>
> On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 10:50 -0500, DjPfulio wrote:
> > But most people don't know these facts. To them, Bill Gates created the
> PC and Bill Gates created the Internet.
> >
> > I believe Windows beat oS/2 because the hardware requirements for
> Windows were much lighter than those required for os/2.
> > Don't forget that Windows was not popular until version 3.0 and os/2 was
> not useful until version 2.1.
> >
> >
> > On 10 December 2015 09:31:22 GMT-05:00, "Lightner, Jeff" <
> JLightner at dsservices.com> wrote:
> > >Bill didn’t “invent” anything including DOS or Windows.   He bought DOS
> > >from someone else to resell to IBM.   Windows was the result of IBM and
> > >Microsoft starting a project to do GUI to compete with Apple (who also
> > >didn’t invent GUI – Xerox did).   IBM and Microsoft had a parting of
> > >the ways with lawsuits and recriminations but the end results were IBM
> > >did OS/2 and MS did Windows.   Since Windows like DOS ran on multiple
> > >vendors’ PCs it took off better than OS/2.
> > >
> > >Maybe Bill would be a good candidate at that – for years people have
> > >said IE stands for Internet Exploder.  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> > >Brian Stanaland
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:06 AM
> > >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > >Subject: Re: [ale] Fwd: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to
> > >"close up" the internet
> > >
> > >Keep in mind that, for a lot of people, Bill invented computers. Their
> > >first (only?) computer experience is with Windows. Bill invented
> > >Windows. Ergo, Bill invented computers.
> > >
> > >On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Hubbs
> > ><jhubbslist at att.net<mailto:jhubbslist at att.net>> wrote:
> > >It's an odd choice on more than one level. Of the US' "tech titans,"
> > >isn't Gates the one who never quite "got" the Internet when he could
> > >have leveraged it the most?
> > >
> > >
> > >On 12/9/15 9:36 AM, Pete Hardie wrote:
> > >I chuckled at the mention of Gates as well.....
> > >
> > >On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Charles Shapiro
> > ><hooterpincher at gmail.com<mailto:hooterpincher at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >This made me laugh out loud.  Now I _have_ to vote for him.
> > >
> > >Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
> > >
> http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates
> > >
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