<div dir="ltr">So the common thing between this two guys is basically they know how to work with money ...<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Sean Kilpatrick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kilpatms@gmail.com" target="_blank">kilpatms@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think I can speak to this a little bit.<br>
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I left Windows with 3.1 and ran to OS/2, which at the time was miles<br>
ahead, technically, of Windows. I was still with OS/2 when I moved to<br>
Atlanta in 1998 and by that time the IBM OS actually had speech<br>
recognition working along with many other features that Windows kept<br>
advertising -- but not delivering.<br>
<br>
I left OS/2 for Linux when IBM basically ended support for OS/2.<br>
<br>
The main reason IBM could not compete with Bill Gates when offering an<br>
operating system for personal computers had nothing to do with the OS<br>
itself and EVERYTHING to do with corporate understanding of how to<br>
market to the personal computer market. Basically IBM marketers had no<br>
clue. They only understood Big Iron. At every turn Microsoft clobbered<br>
IBM with advertising and paid shills. Microsoft would wildly claim that<br>
new features were coming with the next release (features that OS/2 had<br>
offered for months if not years) and then not deliver as promised.<br>
<br>
I do not understand the charge that OS/2 required beefier equipment than<br>
Windows. I NEVER owned a computer with the latest and greatest CPU and<br>
maximum memory and OS/2 ran just fine on the second or third rate<br>
equipment I could afford.<br>
<br>
Sean<br>
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On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 10:50 -0500, DjPfulio wrote:<br>
> But most people don't know these facts. To them, Bill Gates created the PC and Bill Gates created the Internet.<br>
><br>
> I believe Windows beat oS/2 because the hardware requirements for Windows were much lighter than those required for os/2.<br>
> Don't forget that Windows was not popular until version 3.0 and os/2 was not useful until version 2.1.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 10 December 2015 09:31:22 GMT-05:00, "Lightner, Jeff" <<a href="mailto:JLightner@dsservices.com">JLightner@dsservices.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >Bill didn’t “invent” anything including DOS or Windows. He bought DOS<br>
> >from someone else to resell to IBM. Windows was the result of IBM and<br>
> >Microsoft starting a project to do GUI to compete with Apple (who also<br>
> >didn’t invent GUI – Xerox did). IBM and Microsoft had a parting of<br>
> >the ways with lawsuits and recriminations but the end results were IBM<br>
> >did OS/2 and MS did Windows. Since Windows like DOS ran on multiple<br>
> >vendors’ PCs it took off better than OS/2.<br>
> ><br>
> >Maybe Bill would be a good candidate at that – for years people have<br>
> >said IE stands for Internet Exploder. :-)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >From: <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> >Brian Stanaland<br>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:06 AM<br>
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
> >Subject: Re: [ale] Fwd: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to<br>
> >"close up" the internet<br>
> ><br>
> >Keep in mind that, for a lot of people, Bill invented computers. Their<br>
> >first (only?) computer experience is with Windows. Bill invented<br>
> >Windows. Ergo, Bill invented computers.<br>
> ><br>
> >On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Hubbs<br>
</span><span class="">> ><<a href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net">jhubbslist@att.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net">jhubbslist@att.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >It's an odd choice on more than one level. Of the US' "tech titans,"<br>
> >isn't Gates the one who never quite "got" the Internet when he could<br>
> >have leveraged it the most?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >On 12/9/15 9:36 AM, Pete Hardie wrote:<br>
> >I chuckled at the mention of Gates as well.....<br>
> ><br>
> >On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Charles Shapiro<br>
</span><span class="">> ><<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >This made me laugh out loud. Now I _have_ to vote for him.<br>
> ><br>
> >Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet<br>
> ><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates</a><br>
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