[ale] hard drive recorder and hdmi or component

[Narahari 'n' Savitha]

Here is something that will help me.  I have a Canon camcorder that is tape
based (dont ask why)  It is a HD camcorder with max at 1080i.  I have some
recordings on it.  It has no copyright protection.  I would love to play
from it and record it to a PC.  Except the 225 pounds solution, is there
any solution that folks can think of ?

-N

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:41 PM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:

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> On 11/09/2014 07:55 PM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 13:31 -0800, Alex Carver wrote:
> >> On 2014-11-09 12:39, Narahari 'n' Savitha wrote:
> >>> Friends:
> >>>
> >>> Need your input on the following scenario.
> >>>
> >>> I need to be able to a Hard Drive (preferably a USB flash drive) from a
> >>> set top box.
> >>>
> >>> If it can accept HDMI input it is great.  If not, at least component
> >>> video input is needed so I can connect my set top box.
> >>>
> >>> Where can I purchase a Hard Drive recorder without a PC coming into
> >>> the middle ? What is it called (technical term) ?
> >>>
> >
> >> You can't get HDMI recorders that will work with the copy protection
> >> enabled on STBs or other similar content devices (except for cameras).
> >> Your only option is to find a Digital Video Recorder (DVR) that accepts
> >> composite or S-Video (I haven't seen any that accept RGB component
> >> video).
> >
> >> Here's an example of an HDMI recorder that's meant for a camera:
> >> http://www.atomos.com/ninja/
> >
> >> Copy protection on your STB will likely not allow it to record anything.
> >
> > Actually, that's not totally true and for my uses very rarely true.
> > Depending on your requirements and uses, I have found that very little
> > coming from the STB's are copy protected.
> >
> > I have Uverse STBs and they all allow digital recording from HDMI and
> > component video when the data is not protected.  If it's protected, then
> > you have to have the appropriate HDMI device (like a TV and not another
> > recorder) for HDMI and, if you're using component video, the component
> > video is reduced to a lower resolution (what they call the "analog
> hole").
> > I'm currently using an Hauppauge HD PVR2 adapter to record 1080p
> component
> > video off my STB, so THAT can be done (but that's to a PC).  I have
> checked
> > the videos and the resulting files are true 1080p 60fps (meaning I barely
> > have the horse power to play them back).
> >
> > The only exceptions I've noted on AT&T are some of the high end premium
> > channels (few of which we have) and the PPV access.  Those do seem to be
> > locked down so you can't record HDMI and component is down-res (to
> 720p...
> > I think).
> >
> > Now that's WITH a PC.  I don't know of any standaone boxes which support
> > this but, in theory, any component video record should work just fine.
> HDMI
> > is another story.  I agree that HDMI is highly unlikely to be available
> on
> > a stand alone device and record protected feeds.
> >
> > I haven't tried any of the HDMI PC interfaces yet.  There was a good one
> > (the Black Magic devices) that had Linux support if you bought their PCI
> > express board but they didn't have drivers for their USB device because
> > Linux lacked USB3 bulk transfer (irrc) support in the kernel drivers, but
> > that was years ago.  That may have changed.
> >
> > This one claims full 1080p HDMI record and plug and play support in
> > Linux...
> >
> >
> http://www.ems-imaging.com/index.php/usb-3-0-video-capture/vc100dusb-hdmi-capture-dongle-usb3
> >
> >  But, again, that's with a PC and, I know, the OP said without a PC.
> Quite
> > frankly, I've had enough with black boxes and I see no real advantage
> > there.
> >
> > I do also strongly suspect you will not find a "without a PC" device that
> > will do this as this would mean the vendor has to do all that work and
> open
> > themselves up to all the legal liability there-in.
> >
> > Just the interfaces alone ARE NOT CHEAP.
> >
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