<div dir="ltr">Here is something that will help me. I have a Canon camcorder that is tape based (dont ask why) It is a HD camcorder with max at 1080i. I have some recordings on it. It has no copyright protection. I would love to play from it and record it to a PC. Except the 225 pounds solution, is there any solution that folks can think of ?<div><br></div><div>-N</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:41 PM, JD <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jdp@algoloma.com" target="_blank">jdp@algoloma.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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<a href="http://www.magictv.com/hk/en/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.magictv.com/hk/en/index.html</a><br>
The prices are HKD, so don't hvae a heart attack.<br>
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It is a big world out there.<br>
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On 11/09/2014 07:55 PM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:<br>
> On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 13:31 -0800, Alex Carver wrote:<br>
>> On 2014-11-09 12:39, Narahari 'n' Savitha wrote:<br>
>>> Friends:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Need your input on the following scenario.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I need to be able to a Hard Drive (preferably a USB flash drive) from a<br>
>>> set top box.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If it can accept HDMI input it is great. If not, at least component<br>
>>> video input is needed so I can connect my set top box.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Where can I purchase a Hard Drive recorder without a PC coming into<br>
>>> the middle ? What is it called (technical term) ?<br>
>>><br>
><br>
>> You can't get HDMI recorders that will work with the copy protection<br>
>> enabled on STBs or other similar content devices (except for cameras).<br>
>> Your only option is to find a Digital Video Recorder (DVR) that accepts<br>
>> composite or S-Video (I haven't seen any that accept RGB component<br>
>> video).<br>
><br>
>> Here's an example of an HDMI recorder that's meant for a camera:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.atomos.com/ninja/" target="_blank">http://www.atomos.com/ninja/</a><br>
><br>
>> Copy protection on your STB will likely not allow it to record anything.<br>
><br>
> Actually, that's not totally true and for my uses very rarely true.<br>
> Depending on your requirements and uses, I have found that very little<br>
> coming from the STB's are copy protected.<br>
><br>
> I have Uverse STBs and they all allow digital recording from HDMI and<br>
> component video when the data is not protected. If it's protected, then<br>
> you have to have the appropriate HDMI device (like a TV and not another<br>
> recorder) for HDMI and, if you're using component video, the component<br>
> video is reduced to a lower resolution (what they call the "analog hole").<br>
> I'm currently using an Hauppauge HD PVR2 adapter to record 1080p component<br>
> video off my STB, so THAT can be done (but that's to a PC). I have checked<br>
> the videos and the resulting files are true 1080p 60fps (meaning I barely<br>
> have the horse power to play them back).<br>
><br>
> The only exceptions I've noted on AT&T are some of the high end premium<br>
> channels (few of which we have) and the PPV access. Those do seem to be<br>
> locked down so you can't record HDMI and component is down-res (to 720p...<br>
> I think).<br>
><br>
> Now that's WITH a PC. I don't know of any standaone boxes which support<br>
> this but, in theory, any component video record should work just fine. HDMI<br>
> is another story. I agree that HDMI is highly unlikely to be available on<br>
> a stand alone device and record protected feeds.<br>
><br>
> I haven't tried any of the HDMI PC interfaces yet. There was a good one<br>
> (the Black Magic devices) that had Linux support if you bought their PCI<br>
> express board but they didn't have drivers for their USB device because<br>
> Linux lacked USB3 bulk transfer (irrc) support in the kernel drivers, but<br>
> that was years ago. That may have changed.<br>
><br>
> This one claims full 1080p HDMI record and plug and play support in<br>
> Linux...<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.ems-imaging.com/index.php/usb-3-0-video-capture/vc100dusb-hdmi-capture-dongle-usb3" target="_blank">http://www.ems-imaging.com/index.php/usb-3-0-video-capture/vc100dusb-hdmi-capture-dongle-usb3</a><br>
><br>
> But, again, that's with a PC and, I know, the OP said without a PC. Quite<br>
> frankly, I've had enough with black boxes and I see no real advantage<br>
> there.<br>
><br>
> I do also strongly suspect you will not find a "without a PC" device that<br>
> will do this as this would mean the vendor has to do all that work and open<br>
> themselves up to all the legal liability there-in.<br>
><br>
> Just the interfaces alone ARE NOT CHEAP.<br>
><br>
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