[ale] best cross platform development evironment

[Chuck Payne]

Please note that correct spelling of SUSE is SUSE if you are talking
about the SLE version openSUSE. S.u.S.E hasn't not been used since
over 6 years. As for as MONO, openSUSE and SLE aren't the only Linux
Distro to use it. Ubuntu and Fedora are using as well.

Novell get the most flak because of agreement they signed with MS,
which by ways doesn't effect openSUSE, it was more for SLE. MONO is
free.

Geoffrey, what are you want to cross development for, Mac, Windows,
and Linux? Why no Python?

Chuck

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
> To put it simply C# is NOT "free open source software" because of the restrictions M$ put in the patent agreement.
>
> If you think the only ones on the hook would be folks like Novell then you do NOT know the history of M$.   (By the way - It is ironic you used Novell as your example.   They are the only Linux distributor (SuSe) dumb enough to sign a no-sue agreement with M$ over FOSS.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of James Sumners
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:03 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] best cross platform development evironment
>
> What is the problem here? MS has essentially waived any patent claims
> to their invention (C# and .Net) in order to get it standardized. The
> only people who have to request a "license" are the people
> implementing the standard (if that's even necessary). So, the people
> creating Mono (i.e. Novell) are the ones on the hook, not you.
>
> To put it simply: Mono _is_ Free Open Source Software.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Jeff Hubbs <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:
>> Please excuse me if I decline to "get over it:"
>>
>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma%20PATENT/ECMA-334%20&%20335/ECMA-334%204th%20Edition%20patent%20statements.pdf
>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma%20PATENT/ECMA-334%20&%20335/ECMA-335%204th%20Edition%20patent%20statements.pdf
>>
>> We went to Linux and F/OSS to get away from having to obtain corporate
>> permission (in exchange for money or not) to use software.
>>
>> On 11/8/10 9:32 AM, James Sumners wrote:
>>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-334.htm
>>> and
>>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-335.htm
>>>
>>> Get over it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Jeff Hubbs<jhubbslist at att.net>  wrote:
>>>> Seeing as he says he has concerns about Java...
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/10 9:19 AM, James Sumners wrote:
>>>>> Why not C# with .Net/Mono? Mono supports Winforms[1].
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] -- http://www.mono-project.com/Winforms
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Geoffrey Myers
>>>>> <lists at serioustechnology.com>    wrote:
>>>>>> Trying to decide on the best cross platform development environment.
>>>>>> Right now, considering Java, C++ and QT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Concerns about Java because of who now owns it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have to develop an application that will run on both Windows desktops
>>>>>> and Linux desktops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Insights, suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Until later, Geoffrey
>>>
>>
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