[ale] best cross platform development evironment

Geoffrey Myers lists at serioustechnology.com
Tue Nov 9 08:43:09 EST 2010


Chuck Payne wrote:
> Please note that correct spelling of SUSE is SUSE if you are talking 
> about the SLE version openSUSE. S.u.S.E hasn't not been used since 
> over 6 years. As for as MONO, openSUSE and SLE aren't the only Linux 
> Distro to use it. Ubuntu and Fedora are using as well.
> 
> Novell get the most flak because of agreement they signed with MS, 
> which by ways doesn't effect openSUSE, it was more for SLE. MONO is 
> free.
> 
> Geoffrey, what are you want to cross development for, Mac, Windows, 
> and Linux? Why no Python?

The developers have current experience in: C, perl, OO, java 
development.  Hadn't considered Python as it's not something we know. 
Can I build a full blown, fast gui using Python?

> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com>
> wrote:
>> To put it simply C# is NOT "free open source software" because of
>> the restrictions M$ put in the patent agreement.
>> 
>> If you think the only ones on the hook would be folks like Novell
>> then you do NOT know the history of M$.   (By the way - It is
>> ironic you used Novell as your example.   They are the only Linux
>> distributor (SuSe) dumb enough to sign a no-sue agreement with M$
>> over FOSS.)
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: ale-bounces at ale.org
>> [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of James Sumners Sent:
>> Monday, November 08, 2010 10:03 AM To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts 
>> Subject: Re: [ale] best cross platform development evironment
>> 
>> What is the problem here? MS has essentially waived any patent
>> claims to their invention (C# and .Net) in order to get it
>> standardized. The only people who have to request a "license" are
>> the people implementing the standard (if that's even necessary).
>> So, the people creating Mono (i.e. Novell) are the ones on the
>> hook, not you.
>> 
>> To put it simply: Mono _is_ Free Open Source Software.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Jeff Hubbs <jhubbslist at att.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Please excuse me if I decline to "get over it:"
>>> 
>>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma%20PATENT/ECMA-334%20&%20335/ECMA-334%204th%20Edition%20patent%20statements.pdf
>>>  
>>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma%20PATENT/ECMA-334%20&%20335/ECMA-335%204th%20Edition%20patent%20statements.pdf
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We went to Linux and F/OSS to get away from having to obtain
>>> corporate permission (in exchange for money or not) to use
>>> software.
>>> 
>>> On 11/8/10 9:32 AM, James Sumners wrote:
>>>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-334.htm
>>>>  and 
>>>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-335.htm
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Get over it.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Jeff Hubbs<jhubbslist at att.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Seeing as he says he has concerns about Java...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/8/10 9:19 AM, James Sumners wrote:
>>>>>> Why not C# with .Net/Mono? Mono supports Winforms[1].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] -- http://www.mono-project.com/Winforms
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Geoffrey Myers 
>>>>>> <lists at serioustechnology.com>    wrote:
>>>>>>> Trying to decide on the best cross platform development
>>>>>>> environment. Right now, considering Java, C++ and QT.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Concerns about Java because of who now owns it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have to develop an application that will run on both
>>>>>>> Windows desktops and Linux desktops.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Insights, suggestions?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- Until later, Geoffrey
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