[ale] best cross platform development evironment

[Lightner, Jeff]

To put it simply C# is NOT "free open source software" because of the restrictions M$ put in the patent agreement.  

If you think the only ones on the hook would be folks like Novell then you do NOT know the history of M$.   (By the way - It is ironic you used Novell as your example.   They are the only Linux distributor (SuSe) dumb enough to sign a no-sue agreement with M$ over FOSS.)

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of James Sumners
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:03 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] best cross platform development evironment

What is the problem here? MS has essentially waived any patent claims
to their invention (C# and .Net) in order to get it standardized. The
only people who have to request a "license" are the people
implementing the standard (if that's even necessary). So, the people
creating Mono (i.e. Novell) are the ones on the hook, not you.

To put it simply: Mono _is_ Free Open Source Software.


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Jeff Hubbs <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:
> Please excuse me if I decline to "get over it:"
>
> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma%20PATENT/ECMA-334%20&%20335/ECMA-334%204th%20Edition%20patent%20statements.pdf
> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma%20PATENT/ECMA-334%20&%20335/ECMA-335%204th%20Edition%20patent%20statements.pdf
>
> We went to Linux and F/OSS to get away from having to obtain corporate
> permission (in exchange for money or not) to use software.
>
> On 11/8/10 9:32 AM, James Sumners wrote:
>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-334.htm
>> and
>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-335.htm
>>
>> Get over it.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Jeff Hubbs<jhubbslist at att.net>  wrote:
>>> Seeing as he says he has concerns about Java...
>>>
>>> On 11/8/10 9:19 AM, James Sumners wrote:
>>>> Why not C# with .Net/Mono? Mono supports Winforms[1].
>>>>
>>>> [1] -- http://www.mono-project.com/Winforms
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Geoffrey Myers
>>>> <lists at serioustechnology.com>    wrote:
>>>>> Trying to decide on the best cross platform development environment.
>>>>> Right now, considering Java, C++ and QT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Concerns about Java because of who now owns it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have to develop an application that will run on both Windows desktops
>>>>> and Linux desktops.
>>>>>
>>>>> Insights, suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Until later, Geoffrey
>>
>
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