[ale] Intelligent Power (was global warming) [OT]

[Jon Reagan]

waitaminute...

they're making diesel fuel out of turkey gizzards now?

Jon

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Thompson Freeman
> <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 03/10/2008 05:13:52 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> >  > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Greg Freemyer
> >  > <greg.freemyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > >  Per: http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil
> >  > >
> >  > >  In the long term, they can make Electrical generating
> >  > quality crude
> >  > >  oil for about $75 / barrel from biowaste. (iirc).
> >  > >
> >  > >  I have not followed the above oil production plant
> >  > beyond reading that
> >  > >  article, but it is describing an actual plant in full
> >  > production and
> >  > >  selling oil to the local electric company to generate
> >  > electricity, not
> >  > >  some totally pie-in-the-sky project that may be
> >  > possible with a couple
> >  > >  $B in investment.
> >  > >
> >  > >  The article I sited above is 2 years old.  If anyone
> >  > has seen a more
> >  > >  recent article, I would love to read it.
> >  >
> >  > Decided to see if I could find anything newer.
> >  >
> >  > Looks like the plant is now at full production.  200 tons
> >  > of turkey
> >  > guts / waste a day turned into biodiesel.  Not sure how
> >  > efficient they
> >  > are, but if all of the weight were turned into oil that
> >  > would be about
> >  > 50,000 gallons a day, or 1,000 barrels a day, or 350,000
> >  > barrels a
> >  > year.  Not huge, but not really an experiment either.
> >  >
> >  > Oklahoma is even sending them some really ugly fish guts
> >  > to get rid of.
> >  >
> >  > The biggest problem is complaints about the odor.  Not
> >  > sure how they
> >  > know it is the oil producing plant and not the turkey
> >  > processing plant
> >  > next door.
> >  >
> >  > Next time they build one, maybe they will be smart enough
> >  > to build it
> >  > somewhere other than in the middle of town.
> >  >
> >  > Greg
> >
> >
> >  I have seen, and do not recall a link to, a listing of the
> >  conversion rates of various materiel using the thermal
> >  depolimerization process. I think I may have tracked it
> >  down from Wikipedia, but don't hold me to that. You may be
> >  Googling for a while.
> >
> >  That said, I think I read somewhere that there is a Georgia
> >  project using the same technology against vegetation waste
> >  (wood chips and such). Could be my imagination.
>
> I'm still very intrigued about the idea of making oil from renewable
> sources.  No idea how this affects greenhouse gases, but it could
> definitely help with the long term energy issue.
>
> Per this blurb that I just saw, that plant is making about 500 barrels
> a day out of 250 tons of oval, so it is about 40% efficient.  Not bad
> at all considering they are just starting with turkey guts, feathers,
> etc.
>
> So at current prices that is over $50K / day of oil they are
> producing.  That is $10 or $20 million / year.  If the earlier
> articles were accurate then they are currently profitable.  Hopefully
> they build some more plants around the country.
>
> ==
> Changing World Technologies Inc. in West Hempstead, New York, has been
> given the Most Innovative Patent Award in the Environment & Energy
> category by the Long Island Technology Hall of Fame. Brian Appel,
> chief executive officer of CWT, accepted the award at the hall of
> fame's 2008 awards ceremony March 6. CWT's thermal conversion process
> is a commercially viable method of reforming organic waste that
> converts approximately 250 tons of turkey offal and fats per day into
> approximately 500 barrels of renewable diesel.
> ==
>
> Greg
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