waitaminute...<br><br>they're making diesel fuel out of turkey gizzards now?<br><br>Jon<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Greg Freemyer <<a href="mailto:greg.freemyer@gmail.com">greg.freemyer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Thompson Freeman<br>
<<a href="mailto:tfreeman@intel.digichem.net">tfreeman@intel.digichem.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 03/10/2008 05:13:52 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:<br>
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Greg Freemyer<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:greg.freemyer@gmail.com">greg.freemyer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > Per: <a href="http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil" target="_blank">http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > In the long term, they can make Electrical generating<br>
> > quality crude<br>
> > > oil for about $75 / barrel from biowaste. (iirc).<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I have not followed the above oil production plant<br>
> > beyond reading that<br>
> > > article, but it is describing an actual plant in full<br>
> > production and<br>
> > > selling oil to the local electric company to generate<br>
> > electricity, not<br>
> > > some totally pie-in-the-sky project that may be<br>
> > possible with a couple<br>
> > > $B in investment.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The article I sited above is 2 years old. If anyone<br>
> > has seen a more<br>
> > > recent article, I would love to read it.<br>
> ><br>
> > Decided to see if I could find anything newer.<br>
> ><br>
> > Looks like the plant is now at full production. 200 tons<br>
> > of turkey<br>
> > guts / waste a day turned into biodiesel. Not sure how<br>
> > efficient they<br>
> > are, but if all of the weight were turned into oil that<br>
> > would be about<br>
> > 50,000 gallons a day, or 1,000 barrels a day, or 350,000<br>
> > barrels a<br>
> > year. Not huge, but not really an experiment either.<br>
> ><br>
> > Oklahoma is even sending them some really ugly fish guts<br>
> > to get rid of.<br>
> ><br>
> > The biggest problem is complaints about the odor. Not<br>
> > sure how they<br>
> > know it is the oil producing plant and not the turkey<br>
> > processing plant<br>
> > next door.<br>
> ><br>
> > Next time they build one, maybe they will be smart enough<br>
> > to build it<br>
> > somewhere other than in the middle of town.<br>
> ><br>
> > Greg<br>
><br>
><br>
> I have seen, and do not recall a link to, a listing of the<br>
> conversion rates of various materiel using the thermal<br>
> depolimerization process. I think I may have tracked it<br>
> down from Wikipedia, but don't hold me to that. You may be<br>
> Googling for a while.<br>
><br>
> That said, I think I read somewhere that there is a Georgia<br>
> project using the same technology against vegetation waste<br>
> (wood chips and such). Could be my imagination.<br>
<br>
</div></div>I'm still very intrigued about the idea of making oil from renewable<br>
sources. No idea how this affects greenhouse gases, but it could<br>
definitely help with the long term energy issue.<br>
<br>
Per this blurb that I just saw, that plant is making about 500 barrels<br>
a day out of 250 tons of oval, so it is about 40% efficient. Not bad<br>
at all considering they are just starting with turkey guts, feathers,<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
So at current prices that is over $50K / day of oil they are<br>
producing. That is $10 or $20 million / year. If the earlier<br>
articles were accurate then they are currently profitable. Hopefully<br>
they build some more plants around the country.<br>
<br>
==<br>
Changing World Technologies Inc. in West Hempstead, New York, has been<br>
given the Most Innovative Patent Award in the Environment & Energy<br>
category by the Long Island Technology Hall of Fame. Brian Appel,<br>
chief executive officer of CWT, accepted the award at the hall of<br>
fame's 2008 awards ceremony March 6. CWT's thermal conversion process<br>
is a commercially viable method of reforming organic waste that<br>
converts approximately 250 tons of turkey offal and fats per day into<br>
approximately 500 barrels of renewable diesel.<br>
==<br>
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