[ale] Intelligent Power (was global warming) [OT]

[Greg Freemyer]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Thompson Freeman
<tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> wrote:
>
> On 03/10/2008 05:13:52 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>  > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Greg Freemyer
>  > <greg.freemyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > >  Per: http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil
>  > >
>  > >  In the long term, they can make Electrical generating
>  > quality crude
>  > >  oil for about $75 / barrel from biowaste. (iirc).
>  > >
>  > >  I have not followed the above oil production plant
>  > beyond reading that
>  > >  article, but it is describing an actual plant in full
>  > production and
>  > >  selling oil to the local electric company to generate
>  > electricity, not
>  > >  some totally pie-in-the-sky project that may be
>  > possible with a couple
>  > >  $B in investment.
>  > >
>  > >  The article I sited above is 2 years old.  If anyone
>  > has seen a more
>  > >  recent article, I would love to read it.
>  >
>  > Decided to see if I could find anything newer.
>  >
>  > Looks like the plant is now at full production.  200 tons
>  > of turkey
>  > guts / waste a day turned into biodiesel.  Not sure how
>  > efficient they
>  > are, but if all of the weight were turned into oil that
>  > would be about
>  > 50,000 gallons a day, or 1,000 barrels a day, or 350,000
>  > barrels a
>  > year.  Not huge, but not really an experiment either.
>  >
>  > Oklahoma is even sending them some really ugly fish guts
>  > to get rid of.
>  >
>  > The biggest problem is complaints about the odor.  Not
>  > sure how they
>  > know it is the oil producing plant and not the turkey
>  > processing plant
>  > next door.
>  >
>  > Next time they build one, maybe they will be smart enough
>  > to build it
>  > somewhere other than in the middle of town.
>  >
>  > Greg
>
>
>  I have seen, and do not recall a link to, a listing of the
>  conversion rates of various materiel using the thermal
>  depolimerization process. I think I may have tracked it
>  down from Wikipedia, but don't hold me to that. You may be
>  Googling for a while.
>
>  That said, I think I read somewhere that there is a Georgia
>  project using the same technology against vegetation waste
>  (wood chips and such). Could be my imagination.

I'm still very intrigued about the idea of making oil from renewable
sources.  No idea how this affects greenhouse gases, but it could
definitely help with the long term energy issue.

Per this blurb that I just saw, that plant is making about 500 barrels
a day out of 250 tons of oval, so it is about 40% efficient.  Not bad
at all considering they are just starting with turkey guts, feathers,
etc.

So at current prices that is over $50K / day of oil they are
producing.  That is $10 or $20 million / year.  If the earlier
articles were accurate then they are currently profitable.  Hopefully
they build some more plants around the country.

==
Changing World Technologies Inc. in West Hempstead, New York, has been
given the Most Innovative Patent Award in the Environment & Energy
category by the Long Island Technology Hall of Fame. Brian Appel,
chief executive officer of CWT, accepted the award at the hall of
fame's 2008 awards ceremony March 6. CWT's thermal conversion process
is a commercially viable method of reforming organic waste that
converts approximately 250 tons of turkey offal and fats per day into
approximately 500 barrels of renewable diesel.
==

Greg
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