[ale] OT: H1B

ANNAREDDY,REDDY (HP-Cupertino,ex1) reddyraja.annareddy at hp.com
Tue Dec 17 15:45:19 EST 2002


I agree with you partly and don;t agree if you apply to all the H1B workers.
Do you mean to say all the native citizens code is better than H1B's. I
think the point is that, in the boom time, we can see people having three
months experience doing coding for mission critical applications. This is
because of the boom and the oppurtunities created by the economy. If you can
see the accomplishment of some of the H1B's in the software, it is
commendable. The guy who designed PIII is a H1B worker. There are so many
examples like this. It is a matter of training to get perfection. 
(By the way, I meant plastic. I am bad in typing not in spelling.). cheers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey [mailto:esoteric at 3times25.net]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:22 AM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: H1B


A couple flaws in your assessment.  The first is that if all the work is 
farmed out to h1b or overseas, then all these un-employed folks will 
have no cash to purchase anything from these companies that are saving 
all this money by using the cheaper labor.

Secondly, there are US Citizens who are taking the jobs at the lower 
rates in order to maintain employment.  It's unfortunate, because the 
winners are the corporations, not the citizens, not the h1bs.

Further, my personal experiences with h1b/contractors (that are of 
chinese, indian origin is), they are poorly trained in software 
development disciplines.  The code is terrible.  Inconsistent 
formatting, poor logical solutions, never documented.  Just plain sloppy.

This is also exacerbated by the usual lack of command of the spoken 
language.  The code is hard to follow and you can't understand the guy 
who wrote it.

No offense, but it is apparent by your posting that English is not your 
native tongue.  You must understand that this comes through in your work 
as well.  For example, you use the word platic a number of times in your 
posting.  I assume you meant plastic, but I'm not sure of that.  I'm 
pretty sure this is not simply a typo as you did it at least 3 times 
this way.

I think you're correct, in that there is a change coming, but all things 
are cyclic.  It's just a matter of time until we see how much damage 
this approach does to the overall economy.

ANNAREDDY,REDDY (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a H1B holder working in US. US has no option left except to brings H1
> and also outsource the work. Let us see the reasons behind the argument.
> Europe is already having good software engineering background. 


-- 
Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net

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Think about it...

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