[ale] Re: [ale-expo] idea for meetings with AUUG

[Michael H. Warfield]

Unix Guru Dude enscribed thusly:

> }If we are going to be attending the AUUG meetings during the olympics
> }why don't we try to contribute to their meetings and publicise Linux
> }at the same time. One or more of us could offer to do talks with a
> }Linux focus that would be of interest to the general AUUG audience.
> }Something like how to setup a firewall using Linux or how their is now
> }native support for Java, Appletalk, and etc in Linux. Isn't this the
> }same goal as the Expo? To publicise Linux to other business/unix users?
> }
> }
> }-- 
> }Steven A. DuChene       Linux Weenie!    http://www.ysu.edu/~sduchene
> }
> }		isollae - loneliness in the face of beauty
> }		    -- Sean Russell, "World Without End"

> I think this is a great idea.  I kinda picked up a 'them vs. us' attitude
> at the meeting Thursday.  These two groups are working toward similar goals,
> ALE's are just a bit more focused.  I once was a regular AUUG attendee, so
> I would suspect there are some would be 'converts' out there.  I've been
> working with UNIX for a few years, but have just recently gotten into Linux
> because I hadn't heard of it.

	WHAT!?!?  I missed that meeting and maybe it's a good thing I did!
Otherwise, anyone taking a 'them vs us' attitude toward the AUUG would have
found themselves on the short end of an intense discussion over their
ancestory, sexual preferences, and hygenic practices!

	AUUG has had nothing but good will toward ALE.  They regularly
promote our meetings and our activities.  Much of the turnout at our
EXPO was a result of AUUG exposure.  I happen to be one of the LONG TERM
( > 8 years ) Unix guru's at AUUG and I'm one of the founding members
of ALE (even if I haven't been to EVERY meeting lately :-) ).  ALE was
founded with the encouragement of a LARGE contingent of AUUG followers
and largely patterned itself on some of the ideas and format of AUUG!

	We should be looking up to AUUG as a big brother who has continually
offered encouragement and help.  Anything less makes US look like a bunch
of spoiled brats!

> I guarantee there are some folks at those meetings using some flavor of
> UNIX at work and Windog 'something' at home.  They are dying to hear about
> Linux.

	EVERY MEETING!  Absolutely every meeting!  Linux is one of the hot
topics of discussion during the Guru Rap Session.  Our meetings are announced
at every AUUG meeting.  When was the last time an AUUG meeting was announced
at ALE?  We distributed fliers at the AUUG meeting for our Linux EXPO and
Lindsay made some fine announcements and promotions for our EXPO at that
AUUG meeting!

> One thing that would be good to present is the amount of 'stuff' Linux has
> to offer.  When I first got it, I had no clue I would be using it to
> connect to my ISP, run an ftp and Web server.  I know there are those out
> there that think of Linux as a toy.  We just need to educate them.

	I'm doing the presentation at next months AUUG.  The topic is going
to be "Finding System Vulnerabilities".  I'll be there as a representative
of Internet Security Systems talking about system security and network
vulnerabilities.  This is my second presentation as a corporate representative
in front of AUUG.  I've also done a talk in front of ALE (dosemu some time
ago).  I will be demonstrating the Internet Scanner (picture SATAN on steroids)
running on Linux on a laptop.

	I hope to see lots of ALE members at AUUG.  We certainly see a
number of AUUG members at ALE.  So you can be sure that any of this BULLSH*T
'us vs them' is being heard by plenty of AUUG regulars.  Whoever the creten
was had better pull his head out and act like he's got a clue BEFORE we loose
the support and admiration of the premier UNIX support group in Atlanta!
That is the ONE thing we D*MN well can NOT afford!

> -- 
> Until later:
> Geoffrey Myers   geof at denali.is.net   Unix.Guru.Dude at worldnet.att.net
> 	http://www.ticllc.net/~geof  or http://denali.is.net/~geof
> 
> 	Opinions expressed by me are mine, all mine, only mine.....

	Mike
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