[ale] Re: [ale-expo] idea for meetings with AUUG

[Unix Guru Dude]

WHOA, Michael.  Let's not go over board.  I did say that 'I' picked up on the
'them vs. us' attitude.  That doesn't mean that it was everyone or that there
was a large contingent of that attitude.  Just something 'I picked up.'  I
could have been wrong.  Anyway, I agree with the basic sentiment of your
note....

}Unix Guru Dude enscribed thusly:
}
}> }If we are going to be attending the AUUG meetings during the olympics
}> }why don't we try to contribute to their meetings and publicise Linux
}> }at the same time. One or more of us could offer to do talks with a
}> }Linux focus that would be of interest to the general AUUG audience.
}> }Something like how to setup a firewall using Linux or how their is now
}> }native support for Java, Appletalk, and etc in Linux. Isn't this the
}> }same goal as the Expo? To publicise Linux to other business/unix users?
}> }
}> }
}> }-- 
}> }Steven A. DuChene       Linux Weenie!    http://www.ysu.edu/~sduchene
}> }
}> }		isollae - loneliness in the face of beauty
}> }		    -- Sean Russell, "World Without End"
}
}> I think this is a great idea.  I kinda picked up a 'them vs. us' attitude
}> at the meeting Thursday.  These two groups are working toward similar goals,
}> ALE's are just a bit more focused.  I once was a regular AUUG attendee, so
}> I would suspect there are some would be 'converts' out there.  I've been
}> working with UNIX for a few years, but have just recently gotten into Linux
}> because I hadn't heard of it.
}
}	WHAT!?!?  I missed that meeting and maybe it's a good thing I did!
}Otherwise, anyone taking a 'them vs us' attitude toward the AUUG would have
}found themselves on the short end of an intense discussion over their
}ancestory, sexual preferences, and hygenic practices!
}
}	AUUG has had nothing but good will toward ALE.  They regularly
}promote our meetings and our activities.  Much of the turnout at our
}EXPO was a result of AUUG exposure.  I happen to be one of the LONG TERM
}( > 8 years ) Unix guru's at AUUG and I'm one of the founding members
}of ALE (even if I haven't been to EVERY meeting lately :-) ).  ALE was
}founded with the encouragement of a LARGE contingent of AUUG followers
}and largely patterned itself on some of the ideas and format of AUUG!
}
}	We should be looking up to AUUG as a big brother who has continually
}offered encouragement and help.  Anything less makes US look like a bunch
}of spoiled brats!
}
}> I guarantee there are some folks at those meetings using some flavor of
}> UNIX at work and Windog 'something' at home.  They are dying to hear about
}> Linux.
}
}	EVERY MEETING!  Absolutely every meeting!  Linux is one of the hot
}topics of discussion during the Guru Rap Session.  Our meetings are announced
}at every AUUG meeting.  When was the last time an AUUG meeting was announced
}at ALE?  We distributed fliers at the AUUG meeting for our Linux EXPO and
}Lindsay made some fine announcements and promotions for our EXPO at that
}AUUG meeting!
}
}> One thing that would be good to present is the amount of 'stuff' Linux has
}> to offer.  When I first got it, I had no clue I would be using it to
}> connect to my ISP, run an ftp and Web server.  I know there are those out
}> there that think of Linux as a toy.  We just need to educate them.
}
}	I'm doing the presentation at next months AUUG.  The topic is going
}to be "Finding System Vulnerabilities".  I'll be there as a representative
}of Internet Security Systems talking about system security and network
}vulnerabilities.  This is my second presentation as a corporate representative
}in front of AUUG.  I've also done a talk in front of ALE (dosemu some time
}ago).  I will be demonstrating the Internet Scanner (picture SATAN on steroids)
}running on Linux on a laptop.
}
}	I hope to see lots of ALE members at AUUG.  We certainly see a
}number of AUUG members at ALE.  So you can be sure that any of this BULLSH*T
}'us vs them' is being heard by plenty of AUUG regulars.  Whoever the creten
}was had better pull his head out and act like he's got a clue BEFORE we loose
}the support and admiration of the premier UNIX support group in Atlanta!
}That is the ONE thing we D*MN well can NOT afford!
}
}> -- 
}> Until later:
}> Geoffrey Myers   geof at denali.is.net   Unix.Guru.Dude at worldnet.att.net
}> 	http://www.ticllc.net/~geof  or http://denali.is.net/~geof
}> 
}> 	Opinions expressed by me are mine, all mine, only mine.....
}
}	Mike
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}
}


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Until later:
Geoffrey Myers   geof at denali.is.net   Unix.Guru.Dude at worldnet.att.net
	http://www.ticllc.net/~geof  or http://denali.is.net/~geof

	Opinions expressed by me are mine, all mine, only mine.....