[ale] SemiOT: musicians colaboration software.

[William Wylde]

Expand on this "Jambox".   Info?  "HOWTO"s?  Is it available for Debian 12+
in the repository, or the snap repository, or will it have to be installed
from source or an outside package?

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 10:41 AM Neal Rhodes via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> So, you have some latency within the desktop sound pathway.
>
> I'm thinking that Sonobus on Jambox uses Jack as transport "out of the
> box".
>
> I will also note that a PI using Jambox can be configured to "just work".
>  Meaning I can give one to a non-technical person, and just say "plug this
> in at 7pm".   And it comes up and auto-connects.
>
> On 2025-10-09 18:42, Boris Borisov via Ale wrote:
>
> For now I just installed the Sonobus client on my Desktop linux which is
> pretty old PC by nowadays. Is fun to listen to other people jamming. But I
> have problem with sound like the sound buffer cannot be filled up fast
> enough. I'm using ALSA for now perhaps Jack would have better results.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 8:58 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
> ooooh.  OOOOOH.   Might have been me.
>
>
> My bluegrass gospel type group used the Jambox boot on a PI4 with
> HiFiBerry HAT cards for ... near simultaneous audio within the Lilburn
> area.    Back in the pandemic.
>
> The HAT card gets you minimal latency inside the PI box.
>
> Jambox runs Jamulus, which at the time needed a Jamulus server which we
> placed at church on a Comcast business internet.  The Jamulus server we
> stood up on a Dell optiplex running Ubuntu.   Modestly straightforward to
> setup.   There are also some local public Jamulus servers you could play
> with initially.
>
> It worked .... pretty well.   some of us were on AT&T, some were on
> Comcast, and my understanding is that those two providers connect to each
> other in Marietta, so maybe 20ms of latency between the two.
>
> So, kinda depends on the music.   And the latency between each.  I
> wouldn't put rhythm instruments in two separate homes; 20ms of latency just
> doesn't work.
>
> It does require CAT5 connection to your internet router; WIFI latency is
> bleah.
>
>
> We initially tried JackTrip, and found Jamulus was easier.
>
> getting the Jambox ISO, and burning to a microSD and booting up was fairly
> straightforward.
>
>
> For our Oktoberfest we used the same Jambox, which includes Sonobus to run
> Sonobus from the stage in the tent in the back field to the Nurse/First Aid
> station in the church building over WIFI.  Worked great;  Sonobus
> connections will recognize lost packets and just delay the playback so that
> there are no dropouts.   Of course that is a one-way street.
>
> We've also swapped out the HiFiBerry HAT cards for some cheap USB dongles.
>
> As you can tell, I could talk about that for a long long time.
>
>
>
>
> On 2025-10-08 17:41, Boris Borisov via Ale wrote:
>
> Someone posted here information about software that allows musicians to
> play together from home as they are together in same studio.
>
> If I recall was done with rasPI or I can be totally off.
>
> Do you recall that.
>
> I found one open source project called sonobus.net with clients for many
> platforms.
>
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