[ale] SemiOT: musicians colaboration software.

[neal at mnopltd.com]

So, you have some latency within the desktop sound pathway.

I'm thinking that Sonobus on Jambox uses Jack as transport "out of the 
box".

I will also note that a PI using Jambox can be configured to "just 
work".   Meaning I can give one to a non-technical person, and just say 
"plug this in at 7pm".   And it comes up and auto-connects.

On 2025-10-09 18:42, Boris Borisov via Ale wrote:

> For now I just installed the Sonobus client on my Desktop linux which 
> is pretty old PC by nowadays. Is fun to listen to other people jamming. 
> But I have problem with sound like the sound buffer cannot be filled up 
> fast enough. I'm using ALSA for now perhaps Jack would have better 
> results.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 8:58 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> 
> ooooh.  OOOOOH.   Might have been me.
> 
> My bluegrass gospel type group used the Jambox boot on a PI4 with 
> HiFiBerry HAT cards for ... near simultaneous audio within the Lilburn 
> area.    Back in the pandemic.
> 
> The HAT card gets you minimal latency inside the PI box.
> 
> Jambox runs Jamulus, which at the time needed a Jamulus server which we 
> placed at church on a Comcast business internet.  The Jamulus server we 
> stood up on a Dell optiplex running Ubuntu.   Modestly straightforward 
> to setup.   There are also some local public Jamulus servers you could 
> play with initially.
> 
> It worked .... pretty well.   some of us were on AT&T, some were on 
> Comcast, and my understanding is that those two providers connect to 
> each other in Marietta, so maybe 20ms of latency between the two.
> 
> So, kinda depends on the music.   And the latency between each.  I 
> wouldn't put rhythm instruments in two separate homes; 20ms of latency 
> just doesn't work.
> 
> It does require CAT5 connection to your internet router; WIFI latency 
> is bleah.
> 
> We initially tried JackTrip, and found Jamulus was easier.
> 
> getting the Jambox ISO, and burning to a microSD and booting up was 
> fairly straightforward.
> 
> For our Oktoberfest we used the same Jambox, which includes Sonobus to 
> run Sonobus from the stage in the tent in the back field to the 
> Nurse/First Aid station in the church building over WIFI.  Worked 
> great;  Sonobus connections will recognize lost packets and just delay 
> the playback so that there are no dropouts.   Of course that is a 
> one-way street.
> 
> We've also swapped out the HiFiBerry HAT cards for some cheap USB 
> dongles.
> 
> As you can tell, I could talk about that for a long long time.
> 
> On 2025-10-08 17:41, Boris Borisov via Ale wrote:
> 
> Someone posted here information about software that allows musicians to 
> play together from home as they are together in same studio.
> 
> If I recall was done with rasPI or I can be totally off.
> 
> Do you recall that.
> 
> I found one open source project called sonobus.net [1] with clients for 
> many platforms.
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