[ale] Remove systemd network handling

Alex Carver agcarver+ale at acarver.net
Mon Sep 20 02:25:49 EDT 2021


Also I don't think I need to go the dist-specific route since that will
probably take longer.  Just a basic "disable these X things" is enough
to get me started.

On 2021-09-19 23:21, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
> The beef is that it's handling something I don't need handled.  Any
> distribution using systemd and then just letting the default networking
> fall to systemd is letting that be handled.
> 
> I just want to assign the IP to the NIC and be done, I don't need the
> extra features.  Technically this is Raspian so it's not fully built
> around systemd, it's also running headless so there are no hard
> dependencies on systemd.  But the key thing is that I don't want
> something that somehow systemd interprets as an instruction to drop and
> restart the interface which is what seems to be happening.  So pulling
> out networking from its control should fix that.
> 
> On 2021-09-19 18:10, Solomon Peachy via Ale wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 03:55:44PM -0700, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
>>> The device is already statically defined in /etc/network/interfaces, I'm
>>> not using DHCP on this particular machine, and there's no need to be
>>> looking for hotplug events because the instruments and computer are all
>>> bolted together in the same chassis.
>>
>> It sounds like your beef isn't with systemd specifically, but how the 
>> underlying distribution is [mis-]handling things...
>>
>> You may want to contact distribution-specific channels about that, 
>> because generic advice here probably won't be terribly helpful.
>>
>>> As an aside, are there any good explanations for how to remove user
>>> management and login control from systemd as well?  I don't need seats
>>> or any of the fancy features on this machine, that's just overhead for
>>> no good value so I'd rather to back to plain logins.
>>
>> If you're trying to eliminate the use of systemd's networking stuff from 
>> a distribution built around using systemd's networking stuff, you'll 
>> probably find it much less perilous (and work) to just switch to a 
>> different distribution altogether.
>>
>> There are plenty of other distributions out there, with and without 
>> systemd, though I should note that most systemd-based distros don't use 
>> systemd's networking features.
>>
>>  - Solomon
>>
>>
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