[ale] [ALE] OT Sort of

David Jackson deepbsd.ale at gmail.com
Sun Apr 11 23:04:56 EDT 2021

> Many of us, wear white beards, know the pain.

I am so glad to have so many Linux geezers around here.  My first install
was Slackware 3.0 in 1996 on a 386(?).  Needed a kernel recompile just to
hear sound on the sound blaster card and get the CD-ROM to work.  I never
did get X to work on that machine under Slack.  XFree86 simply couldn't
support my Matrox video card.  The first time I saw X running (with good
ol' fvwm and WindowMaker and Afterstep) was with Red Hat 3.0.3, which
included the Metro-X server, which *did* support that video card.
Waaaaaaaay cool.  I gradually moved away from OS2 Warp after that.
Although Warp 4 was pretty spiffy looking.  Anyway, I used Slackware for
many many years as my daily driver.  Imagine my surprise when I started
trying Ubuntu and Debian in the early 2010's!  Worlds apart!

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 12:32 PM Chuck Payne via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> Does anyone remember back in the day when you want to use Gnome you had to
> install ICEWM?
> Staying up late to compile WindowMaker for 4 hours with the latest Xorg.
> Or compiling Linux Kernel so you can use an audio card or graphic card?
> Or changing your shell from sh to bash.
> Kids today don't know the pain.
> I tried to explain to my 16 years today Linux so easy to use, but there
> was a time you would sit and eat pizza and drink beer while praying to the
> compiler Gods that the new kernel you compiled does crap out, Or waking up
> to find out you were missing on a library that cause you to want to scream
> at the sky for wasting a weekend trying to compile.
> I even fired up WindowMaker to show what we had back in the day thought it
> was cool, that it was the Winowmager we used with Xorg and the pain we had
> to do get X working.
> That when KDE came along was so cool but was so heavy to use. Gnome wasn't
> a real WindowManger because you had to install something IceWM to use.
> Hell, even the shells kids are using make life simple, have you played
> with ZSH. So pretty and easy to use, ugh. They need to feel the pain of sh
> and even worse tcsh.
> Many of us, wear white beards, know the pain.
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