[ale] Fixing systemd and pulseaudio: was UEFI vs BIOS understanding

Boris Borisov bugyatl at gmail.com
Mon Dec 21 15:28:40 EST 2020 

Sometimes I'm firing up the Musix 3.0 distro aimed at A/V production.
Mostly from usb stick.
Even though outdated is just for example.
Jack server is so well tuned every program uses it.
There are few demo projects as well just a glimpse what can be done with
Linux for audio production.

You need some 2010 is hardware to test it properly.  Is based on old
Debian.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 1:56 PM Jim Ransone via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> What Boris said. Ardour is closer to ProTools, which most recording
> professionals use. Audacity is pretty limited. If you're going to be
> recording and editing multiple tracks, Ardour would be the way to go IMO.
>
> The only thing I ever use Audacity for is converting audio from one format
> to another. I have a program called Transcribe that slows down and loops
> audio (great for learning guitar licks) but it only likes mp3's. So I
> haven't encountered any problems with Audacity related to
> alsa/jack/pulseaudio. I don't even know what configuration of those it
> uses. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. As I mentioned, with Ardour, I just
> selected the recommended alsa only option, which is faster and trouble free.
>
> Jim
>
> On 12/21/20 1:33 PM, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:
>
> Not rub salt in wounds but my Fedora laptop works just fine running
> audacity, systemd, and pulseaudio. I don't do much with audacity but I do
> test with after updates (usually just major os version upgrades).
>
> On December 21, 2020 1:03:48 PM EST, "SpaXpert, Inc. via Ale"
> <ale at ale.org> <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>
>> ' For simple recording and editing Audacity will suffice. '
>>
>> Oh Yeah, if you can get it to play with pulse, alsa, or jack. :^)
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:59 PM Boris Borisov via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ardour is more like DAW. For simple recording and editing Audacity will
>>> suffice.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 12:51 PM Bob via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is Ardour be a better choice for recording than Audacity?
>>>>
>>>> --Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2020-12-21 12:37 p.m., Jim Ransone via Ale wrote:
>>>> > As a relatively non-technical person who uses my computer for audio
>>>> > stuff, having to deal with alsa, pulseaudio, and jack has been a
>>>> > confusing hassle. What I gathered from spending way too much time
>>>> > reading and watching tutorials to figure this stuff out is that alsa
>>>> is
>>>> > the base level, pulseaudio rides on top of that and handles audio for
>>>> > most common applications but lacks the low-latency necessary for
>>>> audio
>>>> > recording. Hence the need for Jack. Then you need to figure out how
>>>> to
>>>> > make jack and pulseaudio play nice and function along side each
>>>> other.
>>>> > It's a mess. Thankfully, the new version of Ardour recommends just
>>>> using
>>>> > alsa by itself. It makes sense that this would be faster. And it
>>>> > prevents me from spiraling down a rabbit hole of confusion trying to
>>>> > figure out why my audio isn't working. So now I have no need for Jack
>>>> at
>>>> > all, and pulseaudio does whatever it does without bothering me. The
>>>> only
>>>> > downside is that when Ardour is running, youtube videos will not
>>>> play. A
>>>> > little annoying, but I can live with it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jim
>>>> >
>>>> > On 12/21/20 12:17 PM, Boris Borisov via Ale wrote:
>>>> >> Or pick a distro that is already modified.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 11:55 AM Leam Hall via Ale <ale at ale.org
>>>> >> <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     On 12/21/20 11:50 AM, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:
>>>> >>     > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:08:09 -0500
>>>> >>     > DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>     >
>>>> >>     >
>>>> >>     >> Someday, systemd and pulseaudio will be "fixed" by removal,
>>>> which
>>>> >>     >> would be good.
>>>> >>     >
>>>> >>     > That day can't come fast enough.
>>>> >>     >
>>>> >>     > SteveT
>>>> >>     >
>>>> >>     > Steve Litt
>>>> >>     >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     There are days when "Linux From Scratch" seems like a great
>>>> idea...
>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
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