[ale] CPU recommendations
Jeff Hubbs
jhubbslist at att.net
Mon Oct 14 10:03:38 EDT 2019
Confirm/refute: I've been told that in this day and age, there's no
reason to not use a Ryzen if you have to use Intel's Fortran compiler.
On 10/14/19 9:13 AM, Calvin Harrigan via Ale wrote:
> I've used Nvidia GPUs and AMD processors for years. Never had a problem.
> I built a ryzen system earlier this year on the cheap. Mb/ram/CPU <
> 500. I could have gone cheaper, but I wanted 8 cores and some future
> proofing.
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 19:15 DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org
> <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
>
> I'm running a Ryzen 2600 with an nVidia GPU. Works great. I don't
> do any
> CUDA stuff. Suppose I could add an old GPU into the system to be used
> for GUI stuff, but that isn't my skillset.
>
> I'd be surprised if someone here didn't have both AMD and nVidia
> GPUs in
> the same machine somewhere.
>
> On 10/13/19 4:11 PM, Jeffrey Layton via Ale wrote:
> > Thanks very much! I really appreciate the advice.
> >
> > I'm not a gamer, more of a scientific user/HPC person. I will be
> using
> > NV cards so that's kind of important.
> >
> > BTW - $300 is for the CPU only. :)
> >
> > I'm not too worried about 95W or 65W but thanks for the
> > tip about the processor models and the power draw.
> >
> > I'm with you - I've upgraded this case at least once. I'm
> > hoping it will last me a little long :)?? I think it will.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:21 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org
> <mailto:ale at ale.org>
> > <mailto:ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>>> wrote:
> >
> >?? ?? ??+1 for AMD Ryzen.
> >
> >?? ?? ??Is $300 total cost or CPU-only cost?
> >?? ?? ??3600x - $200
> >?? ?? ??3600 - $180
> >?? ?? ??2600 - $115
> >?? ?? ??1600 - $80
> >
> >?? ?? ??I think I could build a system (CPU+RAM+MB) around a Ryzen
> 2600 for $300
> >?? ?? ??(12K+ passmarks).?? That's 6 cores, 12 threads.?? Intel isn't
> anywhere
> >?? ?? ??near that price/performance.?? Ryzen APU models with onboard
> GPUs end in
> >?? ?? ??'g', so 2400g.?? I wouldn't want to mix AMD and nvidia GPUs
> on the same
> >?? ?? ??system, but people mix Intel iGPUs with both all the time.
> >
> >?? ?? ??I've been reusing the same case, GPU, HDDs, and all other
> stuff for
> >?? ?? ??years, just swapping the CPU+MB usually, but DDR4 required I
> get new
> >?? ?? ??RAM.
> >
> >?? ?? ??I think I could do $220 for the Ryzen 1600+RAM+MB if I
> needed to go
> >?? ?? ??cheap.?? That's over 10K passmarks for that price.
> >
> >?? ?? ??With Ryzen, the 'x' in the model means 95W+. Without the
> 'x', 65W, if
> >?? ?? ??that is important to you.
> >
> >?? ?? ??If you game and that is important, it is completely
> different. If you
> >?? ?? ??need more cores, AMD is the best game the last few years.
> >
> >?? ?? ??On 10/13/19 8:43 AM, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:
> >?? ?? ??> As always, AMD is pretty much "best bang for the buck".
> I'm not
> >?? ?? ??dealing
> >?? ?? ??> with home user gear much these days but the Ryzen cpu is a
> fantastic
> >?? ?? ??> value. If you plan to use gpu number crunchers, just make
> sure the x16
> >?? ?? ??> slots are double width apart. Don't skimp on the power
> supply or
> >?? ?? ??case fans.
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ?? ??> On October 13, 2019 8:37:17 AM EDT, Jeffrey Layton via Ale
> >?? ?? ??<ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org> <mailto:ale at ale.org
> <mailto:ale at ale.org>>>
> >?? ?? ??> wrote:
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??Good morning,
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??I don't want to start an argument, particularly on a
> Sunday
> >?? ?? ??morning,
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??but I'm looking for a new "workstation" at home. I
> haven't built
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??anything in the last few years, so any help would be
> appreciated.
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??Someone is loaning me 2xNVIDIA GPUs that are x16 PCIe
> each.
> >?? ?? ??I'd like
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??to have both in a x16 slot physically and
> electrically. Other than
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??that, at least 4cores (more is better). Perhaps
> something with
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??built-in graphics (not always necessary but the two NV
> cards
> >?? ?? ??are not
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??really designed for graphics - mostly computation). I
> can always
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??throw in a simple inexpensive GPU. I'd like to keep
> the price
> >?? ?? ??below
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??$300 but I can go a little higher I think.
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??I don't mind AMD or Intel. I don't mind having to buy
> a new MB and
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??memory. With these two cards and a new CPU, I'm sure
> I'll have to
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??buy a new PSU (probably 1kW or greater since each GPU
> is about
> >?? ?? ??300W).
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??To get things started, Newegg has a pretty good deal
> on the
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??i7-6800K. 6c/12t, 4 memory channels. Right now it's
> about $324
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ??
> ????(https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-6th-gen-core-i7-6800k/p/N82E16819117649?Item=9SIA4RE7MX7779
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??).
> >?? ?? ??>
> >?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??Thanks for any and all suggestions!
> >
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