[ale] Ubuntu Dropping all 32-bit Releases from 19.10 forward

Lightner, Jeffrey JLightner at dsservices.com
Wed Jun 19 08:48:01 EDT 2019


For a long time, I ran Debian on an HP RISC workstation but the project that was maintaining that build finally ceased operations a few years back just about the time our offices were moving so I sent it to electronics recycling.   I just shutdown our last HP-UX RISC based systems last year.

I think one of the biggest mistakes HP ever made was getting rid of their own PA-RISC CPUs in favor of Intel (originally announced Merced around 1993 but didn’t actually implement until Itanium came along years later).   PA-RISC never had the issues that Sun’s SPARC did including the disaster of Sombra modules around 2002/3.


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Subject: Re: [ale] Ubuntu Dropping all 32-bit Releases from 19.10 forward

Lucky me I still kept my RISC gear, too - oh, wait...

On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 20:58 +0000, Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale wrote:

One of the things that annoyed me back when we started moving from HP-UX to Linux was how many things (hardware and applications) on  Linux and intel based systems still relied on 32 bit years after UNIX variants had all gone to 64 bit RISC.



Luckily Itanium came along to save the day - oh wait...





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There isn't any hurry to leave Ubuntu. 18.04 support goes until mid-2023.



Ubuntu people are likely to move to a debian-based solution to stay in the same family with APT if they don't just swap HW. 32-bit HW is pretty old at this point.







On 6/18/19 3:37 PM, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:

Not sure why the ?? But yes Tumbleweed has 64-bit, 32-bit, arm and power pc.



Yes I been a member of openSUSE since 2008.



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    Gentoo won't leave you hanging either, at least not for now. The

    default x86_64 (called "amd64" architecture just because AMD beat

    Intel to market) profile still has 32-bit libs present (useful for

    WINE, IIRC) but you can select a -nomultilib profile and it'll whack

    'em to leave you straight-up 64-bit all around. I still have a

    couple of 32-bitters in my rack at home that run fine.



    On 6/18/19 2:57 PM, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:

    For now you can get 32-Bit from openSUSE Tumbleweed.??



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<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/ubuntu-is-dropping-all-32-bit-sup>

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/ubuntu-is-dropping-all-32-bit-sup




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        18.04 LTS is the last 32-bit release.



        19.10 will not have any 32-bit support. Zero.



        No 32-bit upgrade from prior releases.



        "Ubuntu say maintaining packages for the i386 architecture is more

        hassle than its worth"



        BTW, they really dropped i686 support for non-Intel/AMD

        systems, since

        many of the specialty CPUs didn't include all the instructions

        that i686

        Intel CPUs did, but were still used by the Ubuntu kernels.



        Anyone interested in a PentiumM laptop?

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