[ale] OT New Apple Hardware with T2 chips

DJ-Pfulio DJPfulio at jdpfu.com
Mon Nov 5 15:12:57 EST 2018

Ok, perhaps "buyer beware" would have been a better statement.

Seems this thread has vaccinated our community, assuming they read it
and aren't anti-vaxxers. That was the intent.

On 11/5/18 3:06 PM, jonnyX via Ale wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2018 11:26 AM, DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>> Let the market decide. When people want to try running Linux and can't,
>> that's when the walled-off-garden will matter to them.
> Which market? There's more than one:
> There's the one for large dotcoms who dictate their specifications to hardware manufacturers, thus insuring they can run and continue to profit from f/oss (Linux in particular). Google has been doing this for ~15+ years. (As an aside, does anyone know what's going on with the BIOS/EUFI firmware replacement Google was working on to rid their millions of Intel-based servers of IME security holes & backdoors? That seemed to light a big fire under their asses in 2017, and I haven't heard much since. Presumably all of the other big Linux/x86 dotcoms were doing the same.)
> The other market is for us consumers. Hardware and software vendors want to squeeze us for every penny (including paid software upgrades to fix the broken stuff we've already paid for, and forced hardware upgrades when a device's OS support is dropped, ie - phones & tablets), numerous special interests want our tech backdoored and buggy, and real privacy is to be avoided at all costs, lest the ad-serving and personal data collection financial underpinnings of the commercial internet collapse. You think consumers get a say in this market?
> ~~Dru (aka jX)
> PS - You can run Ubuntu under Windows, and OSX is a slightly tweaked BSD with a nicer GUI running on top. What more do you want? (Before I get flamed, that's sarcasm; it's also a question I've been asked at Nashville Linux Users Group meetings.) 

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