[ale] Breaking into the field [Inquiry]

Arie vW willigen.van.a at gmail.com
Sat Sep 30 16:54:43 EDT 2017


Thank you all so much for the feedback! This is more than I could have
hoped for.

Arie

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Edward O. Holcroft via Ale <ale at ale.org>
wrote:

> Arie,
>
> As am ageing sysadmin with no programming skills I can tell you that is my
> biggest shortcoming. I blame starting my sysadmin life as an MCSE for that
> lack of vision.  I have to go to the dev guys every time I need something
> more involved than an ugly bash script. I did a course in Python a few
> years back and it helped a lot, but still, I'm tool old and mostly too busy
> too build meaningful coding skills now. The difference between a mediocre
> sysadmin, like me, and a great one, is the ability to hack code together on
> the fly to solve problems that don't yet have solutions.
>
> Coding skills I label as "just-in-case" knowledge. my day-to-day sysadmin
> stuff, much of which has changed in meaningful ways over the decades, I
> level as "just-in-time" knowledge, meaning, I only learn it when I need it.
> I would hire someone that can hack a decent bash script together but with
> only rudimentary knowledge of say, Apache. If you wait too long, you end up
> never learning the "just-in-case" stuff. The sysadmin side is not that hard
> to pick up as needed, but coding is not something you cannot quickly
> "figure out" one day when you realize you need it. Well not me anyway, so
> maybe that's just my own bias coming through.
>
> Anyway, that's my 2c on what's more important. Learn to code to at east a
> basic level of proficiency - that's the base of your pyramid. The sysadmin
> stuff is the layers on top.
>
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Arie vW <willigen.van.a at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Some of you may know me from the Sunday meet-ups at Harry's Pizza. I am
>> looking for input on how I might land my first Linux related job. My end
>> goal is to find myself in the role of a Junior Systems Administrator
>> somewhere within a few years.
>> With no technical background, my research has indicated that I must start
>> at the bottom, ie. Help Desk. It was also recommended that I look for any
>> position within a web hosting company, since nowadays these companies tend
>> to run Linux under the hood.
>> I am striving to learn as much as I can about Linux server implementation
>> and maintenance and wanted to reach out to see if anyone had any
>> suggestions on how I might get my foot in the door somewhere, or any other
>> insightful pieces of advice.
>>
>> Thanks for you time,
>>
>> Arie
>>
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