<div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you all so much for the feedback! This is more than I could have hoped for.<br><br></div>Arie<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Edward O. Holcroft via Ale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Arie,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">As am ageing sysadmin with no programming skills I can tell you that is my biggest shortcoming. I blame starting my sysadmin life as an MCSE for that lack of vision. I have to go to the dev guys every time I need something more involved than an ugly bash script. I did a course in Python a few years back and it helped a lot, but still, I'm tool old and mostly too busy too build meaningful coding skills now. The difference between a mediocre sysadmin, like me, and a great one, is the ability to hack code together on the fly to solve problems that don't yet have solutions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Coding skills I label as "just-in-case" knowledge. my day-to-day sysadmin stuff, much of which has changed in meaningful ways over the decades, I level as "just-in-time" knowledge, meaning, I only learn it when I need it. I would hire someone that can hack a decent bash script together but with only rudimentary knowledge of say, Apache. If you wait too long, you end up never learning the "just-in-case" stuff. The sysadmin side is not that hard to pick up as needed, but coding is not something you cannot quickly "figure out" one day when you realize you need it. Well not me anyway, so maybe that's just my own bias coming through.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Anyway, that's my 2c on what's more important. Learn to code to at east a basic level of proficiency - that's the base of your pyramid. 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