[ale] systemd bad. Very bad.

[Jim Kinney]

Thanks for that link! It's reasoning I've surmised from watching what
systemd does now but never saw the motivation so clearly.

This might fork/hijack the thread but...

Linux used to work hard hard to outdo Microsoft. The references to Apple
made it clear I'm not the only person who sees Apple as a greater and more
subtle threat to Linux than Microsoft. When OSX arrived, I was shocked at
the number of macbooks that appeared at Linux conferences. It's good that
good ideas from other OS environments are implemented into Linux. Let's be
honest here - the goal of total world domination is really about making the
best OS ever.

So systemd is sort of a "shot across the bow" of Apple. That's a good
thing. Gnome implemented some design and function ideas from OSX as well.
If Linux is going to ever be a viable desktop for the general masses, it
will have to do better than than the perceived flagship standard of desktop
environments: Apple.

Apple only works as well as it does because it's a closed loop, hardware to
software to user, fully-controlled environment. Yes, Apple controls their
users almost as tightly as their hardware supply chain. If Linux systems
only had to run on 3 new laptops a year with varying ram and storage, I
suspect the Linux UI would be a star in a field of flashlights. We already
beat Apple in the server arena - they quit.

So, yeah. Systemd taking on Apple to make a better init is a big step
forward. Maybe a shim library to run 3rd party software for OSX on Linux is
next.

On Jun 29, 2017 10:22 PM, "Solomon Peachy" <pizza at shaftnet.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 08:33:15PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > OK, I'll byte: Why was systemd written?
>
> Becasue sysvinit (and the hack-upon-hack-upon-hack heaped on top to
> compensate for its inadequacies) is a festering pile of swill?
>
> But if you're actually serious about that question, here's the (very
> long) answer direct from the horse's mouth:
>
>   http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
>
>  - Solomon
> --
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