<div dir="auto">Thanks for that link! It's reasoning I've surmised from watching what systemd does now but never saw the motivation so clearly.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This might fork/hijack the thread but...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Linux used to work hard hard to outdo Microsoft. The references to Apple made it clear I'm not the only person who sees Apple as a greater and more subtle threat to Linux than Microsoft. When OSX arrived, I was shocked at the number of macbooks that appeared at Linux conferences. It's good that good ideas from other OS environments are implemented into Linux. Let's be honest here - the goal of total world domination is really about making the best OS ever. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So systemd is sort of a "shot across the bow" of Apple. That's a good thing. Gnome implemented some design and function ideas from OSX as well. If Linux is going to ever be a viable desktop for the general masses, it will have to do better than than the perceived flagship standard of desktop environments: Apple.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Apple only works as well as it does because it's a closed loop, hardware to software to user, fully-controlled environment. Yes, Apple controls their users almost as tightly as their hardware supply chain. If Linux systems only had to run on 3 new laptops a year with varying ram and storage, I suspect the Linux UI would be a star in a field of flashlights. We already beat Apple in the server arena - they quit.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So, yeah. Systemd taking on Apple to make a better init is a big step forward. Maybe a shim library to run 3rd party software for OSX on Linux is next.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 29, 2017 10:22 PM, "Solomon Peachy" <<a href="mailto:pizza@shaftnet.org">pizza@shaftnet.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 08:33:15PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:<br>
> OK, I'll byte: Why was systemd written?<br>
<br>
Becasue sysvinit (and the hack-upon-hack-upon-hack heaped on top to<br>
compensate for its inadequacies) is a festering pile of swill?<br>
<br>
But if you're actually serious about that question, here's the (very<br>
long) answer direct from the horse's mouth:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://0pointer.de/blog/<wbr>projects/systemd.html</a><br>
<br>
- Solomon<br>
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