[ale] Programming Languages and Personality?

[Jim Kinney]

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On Jul 1, 2017 9:37 PM, "Ed Cashin" <ecashin at noserose.net> wrote:

> Random thoughts in response:
>
> 1) On a podcast, "Ruby Rogues," I heard that many rubyists could be found
> at Go conferences.  They were having fun using Go.
>
> 2) I really tried to turn into a lisp programmer, but the community was
> fragmented and terrible.  This was about 2002.
>
> 3) After learning a few languages and getting jobs doing programming, the
> community became important not so much for support in learning but for
> support through smart and unified design and implementation.  Ideally you'd
> get both.
>
> 4) I miss usenet.  The web has forums, but they're disconnected by design,
> and while there are feed aggregators for RSS and such, there are no forum
> aggregators now that gmane.org is dead.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Leam Hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I find myself greatly influenced by the community around the language and
>> the books on the topic. Mentoring is beyond my skill; I was as much a
>> learner as the others. The issue is the longer term sticking with it and
>> the community of encouragement.
>>
>> I started looking at some languages based on "Crafter" (C, Go) versus
>> "Producer" (Ruby, Python). Not to say the language can't flow back and
>> forth but they tend to attract a type of mindset. That was the original
>> theory, anyway. I'm more of a Producer; quickly make something and share
>> it. Crafters make fewer things but do them really really well.
>>
>> Not sure if that image really holds water but I think the community
>> attitude can influence newbies' enthusiasm based on similar mindsets.
>>
>>
>> On 07/01/17 10:22, Scott M. Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Did you find mentoring in C useful?  Would it help in any other language?
>>>
>>> -Scott
>>>
>>> On 7/1/17 5:41 AM, Leam Hall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael, flipped through the first few pages of the book on Amazon. The
>>>> author seems to raise good questions. Does he answer them? I'd like to
>>>> move forward in my coding skills but seem to be hitting blocks. Trying
>>>> to understand the mental game so I can adjust and move forward.
>>>>
>>>> On 06/30/17 16:59, Michael Potter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Perl, once my language of choice, now makes me physically nauseous."
>>>>> +100.  I curse the day I started to learn Perl.
>>>>>
>>>>> This book is a very interesting book.  Good for an airplane:
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Computer-Programming-Silve
>>>>> r-Anniversary/dp/0932633420
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think in C.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am learning R and golang right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Leam Hall <leamhall at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:leamhall at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Skipping over the long term coders who can do anything with
>>>>>      assembler, I'm trying to root out some personality thoughts on
>>>>>      programming languages. I'll have some alone time and would like to
>>>>>      make some coding progress; things have slowed while I learn
>>>>> Ansible.
>>>>>
>>>>>      What has my interest is the mental perception I have of different
>>>>>      languages. Ruby, and to a slightly lesser extent PHP, are just
>>>>> fun.
>>>>>      Go, and C, are more academic and I find them powerful and dreary.
>>>>>      Python is somewhere in the middle and Perl, once my language of
>>>>>      choice, now makes me physically nauseous.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Does anyone else have this perception, even if the reaction to the
>>>>>      same languages is different? More to the point, what can be done
>>>>> to
>>>>>      alter the personal reception of a language? Ruby makes me want to
>>>>>      code, C makes me want to sleep. Python makes me read e-mail to
>>>>> recover.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Leam
>>>>>
>>>>
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