[ale] Server boot speed (wuz: eth numbering range)

[Jim Kinney]

In a perfect world.....

On Feb 14, 2017 9:44 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:

> Nothing you don't already know.
>
> VMs should never be free. They should be pre-paying for new HW with
> replacements on 3-4 yr cycles. If the project can't afford to pay, then
> it isn't important enough to get any VMs. The teams need sufficient
> internal political clout to get funding.
>
> In the real world, that is called a "business case."
>
> My University, 30 yrs ago, had a charge-back method for computer time.
> Certainly if they could do it all those years ago, it can be done today.
>
> In the meantime, perhaps VMs need a month-by-month signature from
> department heads who have limited "signatures" to give out? Limited
> resources need to be precious.  While the most important things in life
> are free, VMs and HW/infra to run them are not.
>
>
> On 02/14/2017 08:49 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > Yes. VMs do boot faster than real iron. But that actually make it worse.
> > Now I have 40-80 machines stuck waiting for the real iron to boot. Not
> > all vm stacks are large enough to support migrating all units away from
> > a host that needs rebooting. And since the hardware is "free" for a vm,
> > vms multiply faster than rabbits in a predator-free field surrounded by
> > vegetable farms.
> >
> > I've been asked to provide a VM with 8 3GHz cores,100GB ram and 40TB
> > storage to start with. I replied "what brand? Dell or Supermicro?".
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2017 8:12 AM, "leam hall" <leamhall at gmail.com
> > <mailto:leamhall at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Isn't the move to VMs and containers resolving some of the hardware
> >     boot time issues? In theory, if you have a multi-hardware-server
> >     layer your VMs and containers can be moved around while a hardware
> >     host boots. I'm used to 10-15 minute Oracle boots that now take a
> >     couple minutes on VMs.
> >
> >     Leam
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