[ale] Party like it is 1995

Brian Stanaland brian at stanaland.org
Tue Jun 7 15:30:22 EDT 2016


My first job out of the Army was as a system admin in a Sun shop. When I
got there, they were still using OpenWindows. I started playing around with
CDE and got it locked down enough for the manager to let me give it to some
users.

Brian

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:47 PM, maddog at li.org <jonhall80 at comcast.net> wrote:

> >CDE was not free in those days.
>
> Depends on what you mean by the word "Free", Pilgrim.
>
> Most of the vendors that had workstations bundled CDE "runtime" in with
> their systems, so your application could dynamically link to it.
>
> "Developers Kits" (wow, that sounds so dated) would typically sell with
> the compilers, although some vendors gave them out for free.
>
> >Not being free probably explains whey there is not a plethora of free
> software out on the net for 'dt'.
>
> A bit.  But Motif (and CDE) were "too little, too late".  In those days
> workstations of proprietary architectures (HP, IBM, DEC, even Sun) were
> being used as servers, not desktops.  The desktop had been ceded to
> inexpensive Intel machines running (typically) Microsoft.  The few
> "graphical developers" out there that used Unix on the desktop were really
> not interested in creating applications for the (relatively) few Unix
> systems used on the desktop.
>
> In 1994, as GNU/Linux started to creep out onto the desktop, GTK+ and Qt
> were making their way as toolkits, and of course Gnome and KDE started up
> as desktops.
>
> Never equate "difficulty in doing a port" as a reason for people not
> creating applications.  Volume (or the lack of it) is much more the
> deciding factor.
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> maddog
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "DJ-Pfulio" <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com>
> To: ale at ale.org
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:15:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [ale] Party like it is 1995
>
>
> a) for the time, it seems ¨user friendly¨
> b) you should be embarrassed. ;)
>
> It is amazing what we've become used to using. Screen shot is an example.
> How many of use do this? I do it a few times/week.
>
> In CDE, Motiff, etc. you run a program in xterm to create the shot. For
> modern convenience you use convert to convert to PNG.
>
> "If I run the program in the xterm will I not also get the the xterm in
> the shot? "
>
> Yes you would. I suggest using 'sleep 5' before the command and minimize
> the xterm. :)
>
>
> CDE was not free in those days. I had 4 HP 7XX workstations in my spare
> bedroom with 21" tubes. All running HP-UX and CDE. Not being free probably
> explains whey there is not a plethora of free software out on the net for
> 'dt'.
>
>
>
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