[ale] [OT] Cell phones

[Jim Kinney]

On Thu, 2016-08-18 at 16:18 -0400, Calvin Harrigan wrote:
> On 08/18/2016 02:32 PM, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
> > On 08/18/2016 01:13 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:21:22PM -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
> > > > > > > > ... it is far from end-of-life to me, but google
disagrees.  "Major OTA"
> > > > > > > > updates for 2 yrs and security patches for 3 yrs is their rule.
Found
> > > > these EoL dates:
> > > >     Nexus 5X: September 2017
> > > >     Nexus 6P: September 2017
> > > >     Nexus 9: October 2016
> > > >     Nexus 5: October 2015
> > > >     Nexus 6: October 2016
> > > >     Nexus 7 (2013): July 2015
> > > >     Nexus 10: November 2014
> > > 
> > > > > > 3 years of support is pretty damn good for consumer-oriented
gear.
> > > 
> > > > > > > > Heck, even Ubuntu LTS provides 5 yrs of support. Google can't
do that?
> > > 
> > > > > > If you could just install Ubuntu on a random phone, the
comparison would
> > > > > > ve valid.  There's worlds of differences between supplying
software that
> > > > > > runs entirely on commodity hardware (ie not having to write your
own
> > > drivers for anything) and the reality of consumer ARM gear.
> > 
> > > > I'm not asking google to support all ARM devices, just their own
with OS
> > > > updates. A $350 device isn't meant to be replaced every 3 yrs,
IMHO. The
> > > > Nexus4 was sold for about 1 yr thru Google's website - available
until
> > 11/2013. It has been less than 3 yrs since the last N4 was sold!
> > 
> > > > Ubuntu LTS supports thousands of different possible configurations
with
> > a tiny company (privately funded w/ about 500 employees). Redhat
> > supports for even longer periods.
> > 
> > > > Google (HUGE corporation w/ 500+B market CAP & 45k+ employees)
can't
> > > > support ... lets count ... 1, 2, 3,  ... 9 devices that THEY
designed
> > and sold?
> > 
> > > > BTW, my Nexus4 (purchased in mid-2013) was $100 more expensive than
my
> > > > Ubuntu white-box Core i5 PC - built in 2010 which is still
supported and
> > running.
> > 
> > > > Google is definitely low on the support timeframes. We should
expect and
> > demand better.
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> > This thread has hit a nerve with me, as I too own a nexus 4.  The
phone 
> > has several issues and I have been looking for a replacement. It hits
a 
> nerve not only with lack of software support you mentioned, but also 
> with hardware support.  It's almost impossible to buy OEM parts to 
> repair your phone. Just low grade knock off parts.
> I do believe that Google needs to do better in it's support for its 
> products.
> 
> > With that said, what would be a good cell replacement phone for the
Nexus 4?

https://oneplus.net/

NOTE: The red funky USB sync/charger cable that came with all 3 I bough
is crap. The ends broke very soon. But any micro (pico??) USB cable
will work. My version1 is on par with the Nexxus version top of the
line from 2+ years ago. But my phone was only $350. The similar
features Nexxus was $650.

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