<html><head></head><body><div>On Thu, 2016-08-18 at 16:18 -0400, Calvin Harrigan wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><pre>On 08/18/2016 02:32 PM, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
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On 08/18/2016 01:13 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:21:22PM -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
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... it is far from end-of-life to me, but google disagrees. "Major OTA"
updates for 2 yrs and security patches for 3 yrs is their rule. Found
these EoL dates:
Nexus 5X: September 2017
Nexus 6P: September 2017
Nexus 9: October 2016
Nexus 5: October 2015
Nexus 6: October 2016
Nexus 7 (2013): July 2015
Nexus 10: November 2014
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3 years of support is pretty damn good for consumer-oriented gear.
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Heck, even Ubuntu LTS provides 5 yrs of support. Google can't do that?
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If you could just install Ubuntu on a random phone, the comparison would
ve valid. There's worlds of differences between supplying software that
runs entirely on commodity hardware (ie not having to write your own
drivers for anything) and the reality of consumer ARM gear.
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I'm not asking google to support all ARM devices, just their own with OS
updates. A $350 device isn't meant to be replaced every 3 yrs, IMHO. The
Nexus4 was sold for about 1 yr thru Google's website - available until
11/2013. It has been less than 3 yrs since the last N4 was sold!
Ubuntu LTS supports thousands of different possible configurations with
a tiny company (privately funded w/ about 500 employees). Redhat
supports for even longer periods.
Google (HUGE corporation w/ 500+B market CAP & 45k+ employees) can't
support ... lets count ... 1, 2, 3, ... 9 devices that THEY designed
and sold?
BTW, my Nexus4 (purchased in mid-2013) was $100 more expensive than my
Ubuntu white-box Core i5 PC - built in 2010 which is still supported and
running.
Google is definitely low on the support timeframes. We should expect and
demand better.
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This thread has hit a nerve with me, as I too own a nexus 4. The phone
has several issues and I have been looking for a replacement. It hits a
nerve not only with lack of software support you mentioned, but also
with hardware support. It's almost impossible to buy OEM parts to
repair your phone. Just low grade knock off parts.
I do believe that Google needs to do better in it's support for its
products.
With that said, what would be a good cell replacement phone for the Nexus 4?
</pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="https://oneplus.net/">https://oneplus.net/</a></div><div><br></div><div>NOTE: The red funky USB sync/charger cable that came with all 3 I bough is crap. The ends broke very soon. But any micro (pico??) USB cable will work. My version1 is on par with the Nexxus version top of the line from 2+ years ago. But my phone was only $350. The similar features Nexxus was $650.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><pre>_______________________________________________
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