[ale] ot: cpu laptop

[Raylynn Knight]

When this issue happened with the 15" MacBook Pro in ~2008/2009 Apple stepped up and fixed the problem.  I believe they did a full motherboard replacement on mine in 2011 even though I bought it used and there was no extended warranty.

Ray Knight


> On Mar 30, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Neal Rhodes <neal at mnopltd.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, probably a bit too much spin on my part.   You can tell I'm still .......... not a happy bunny over having to replace a notebook prematurely. 
> 
>> On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 16:19 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> Sadly, those chips can get hot enough to reflow their attachment solder. However, that is only a specific problem with HP who used a poorly sized heat sink coupled with a low quality thermal pad. Asus didn't have the problem as they bolted on the heatsink.
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2015 4:12 PM, "Neal Rhodes" <neal at mnopltd.com> wrote:
>> Well, I have on one corner of my Desk an HP Pavillion notebook with AMD components.   It has apparently gotten too hot watching BBC shows on Acorn, and the GPU has de-soldered itself from the board.    And apparently this is a known behavior of HP notebooks with AMD components.  While shopping for an Intel replacement, even at the low tech Office Depot if you say "No, I don't want to look at HP nor AMD" they say "oh, you must have been burned by your AMD GPU, eh?". 
>> 
>> Thus an HP/AMD computer has the lonely status of the ONLY computer I or my company has ever owned which will not now boot up.  I have a few still that are obsolete, but at least they will power up.  
>> 
>> So, I have no sympathy for AMD.  Or HP. 
>> 
>> Neal Rhodes
>> (formerly HP Netserver certified) 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 13:29 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> Ouch. 
>>> 
>>> AMD is not doing well. After kicking Intel in the teeth a decade ago
>>> with the Opteron they ran into build issues, stumbled, and have never
>>> recovered their momentum. They still don't have a PCIe v.3 capable
>>> chipset. It's been 4+ years since PCIe v.3 came out. That alone will
>>> kill them in the server market. 
>>> 
>>> Their consumer cpu's are still a better bang for buck line-up than Intel
>>> but they can't sell enough of what looks like last year's technology to
>>> the gamer crowd or the business box buyer.
>>> 
>>> I don't expect to see them around in 2020 and that will be a bad thing.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 13:21 -0400, Boris Borisov wrote:
>>> > Today in microcenter i didn't see any AMD based laptop ...
>>> > 
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