[ale] Linux on PPC
Jeff Hubbs
jhubbslist at att.net
Sat Jun 7 17:07:12 EDT 2014
It's going to be mostly limited by how fast you can type until you want,
say, Xorg. That first kernel compile might take a while.
On 6/7/14, 11:08 AM, Boris Borisov wrote:
> Never done Gentoo even on x86. How long will take on 400 Mhz PPC you
> think ?
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com
> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> You verbed a noun. Is that allowed?
>
> On Jun 6, 2014 6:22 PM, "Jeff Hubbs" <jhubbslist at att.net
> <mailto:jhubbslist at att.net>> wrote:
>
> Not an issue with Gentoo. From
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml?full=1#book_part1:
>
> *Apple NewWorld Machines* Power/PowerPC microprocessors (G3,
> G4, G5) such as iMac, eMac, iBook PowerBook, Xserver, PowerMac
> *Apple OldWorld machines* Apple Machines with an Open
> Firmware revision less than 3, such as the Beige G3s, PCI
> PowerMacs and PCI PowerBooks. PCI-based Apple Clones should
> also be supported.
> *Genesi* Pegasos I/II, Open Desktop Workstation, Efika
> *IBM* RS/6000, iSeries, pSeries
> *Memory* At least 64 MB
> *Diskspace* 1.5 GB (excluding swap space)
> *Swap space* At least 256 MB
>
>
> It's really nice to be able to take a non-Intel machine that'd
> be a boat anchor to most and make it almost as useful as
> x86/x86_64 (within reason, i.e. accelerated video). I've
> Gentooed a couple of Suns in the past; solid as a rock.
>
> On 6/6/14, 12:41 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Michael H. Warfield
>> <mhw at wittsend.com <mailto:mhw at wittsend.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 11:36 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:50 +0000, Beddingfield, Allen
>> wrote:
>> > > So, are any of you doing any Linux on PowerPC?
>> Someone gave me an old
>> > > 2Ghz PowerMac G5 (one of the big full tower aluminum
>> ones that was
>> > > about $3000+ back when it was new), with 3 GB of
>> memory, and a 1TB
>> > > hard drive. It works great/has nothing wrong with it
>> - not even a
>> > > scratch on the exterior. It looks like Debian or
>> Yellowdog seem to be
>> > > the main options for PPC these days... this thing
>> may be my weekend
>> > > experiment :)
>>
>> > Wow... Weird how things just synchronisticly come
>> together...
>>
>> > No, I'm not actively working on PPC now although I do
>> have the hardware
>> > available to me. In fact, said hardware may be a twin
>> of your own.
>>
>> > Be that as it may. Fedora has been released on PPC (32
>> and 64).
>>
>> Ah, crap... Strike that...
>>
>> >
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PowerPC/F20_PPC_release_announcement
>>
>> Reading in more detail was this unexpected gem
>> (rhinestone)...
>>
>>
>> yeah
>>
>> " Apple MacPPC systems are not supported, have not been
>> tested, and are not expected to work."
>>
>> Very geared toward new IBM Power systems.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Supported Hardware
>>
>> IBM POWER servers are the only systems fully supported by
>> Fedora for
>> Power at this time.
>>
>> Apple MacPPC systems are not supported, have not been
>> tested, and are
>> not expected to work.
>> --
>>
>> Damn... Guess that G5 sits a while longer...
>>
>> > The coincidence is that I'm fielding some bugzilla
>> reports on LXC at the
>> > moment and one of them is a failure to install
>> lxc-templates on a ppc64
>> > arch due to a dependency on busybox (which is
>> required). Seems that
>> > someone forgot to build busybox for F20 ppc even though
>> it's present in
>> > F19 ppc. Still looking for who to lay hands on for
>> that oversight.
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Allen Beddingfield
>> > > Systems Engineer
>> > > The University of Alabama
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Mike
>>
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