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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It's going to be mostly limited by how
      fast you can type until you want, say, Xorg.&nbsp; That first kernel
      compile might take a while.<br>
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      On 6/7/14, 11:08 AM, Boris Borisov wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Never done Gentoo even on x86. How long will take
        on 400 Mhz PPC you think ?<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Jim
          Kinney <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <p dir="ltr">You verbed a noun. Is that allowed?</p>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 6, 2014 6:22 PM, "Jeff
                  Hubbs" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net" target="_blank">jhubbslist@att.net</a>&gt;
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                      <div>Not an issue with Gentoo.&nbsp; From <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml?full=1#book_part1"
                          target="_blank">http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml?full=1#book_part1</a>:<br>
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                              <td><b>Apple NewWorld Machines</b></td>
                              <td> Power/PowerPC microprocessors (G3,
                                G4, G5) such as iMac, eMac, iBook
                                PowerBook, Xserver, PowerMac </td>
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                              <td><b>Apple OldWorld machines</b></td>
                              <td> Apple Machines with an Open Firmware
                                revision less than 3, such as the Beige
                                G3s, PCI PowerMacs and PCI PowerBooks.
                                PCI-based Apple Clones should also be
                                supported. </td>
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                              <td><b>Genesi</b></td>
                              <td> Pegasos I/II, Open Desktop
                                Workstation, Efika </td>
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                              <td><b>IBM</b></td>
                              <td> RS/6000, iSeries, pSeries </td>
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                              <td><b>Memory</b></td>
                              <td>At least 64 MB</td>
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                              <td><b>Diskspace</b></td>
                              <td>1.5 GB (excluding swap space)</td>
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                              <td><b>Swap space</b></td>
                              <td>At least 256 MB</td>
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                        It's really nice to be able to take a non-Intel
                        machine that'd be a boat anchor to most and make
                        it almost as useful as x86/x86_64 (within
                        reason, i.e. accelerated video).&nbsp; I've Gentooed
                        a couple of Suns in the past; solid as a rock.<br>
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                        On 6/6/14, 12:41 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 6, 2014
                              at 12:04 PM, Michael H. Warfield <span
                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:mhw@wittsend.com"
                                  target="_blank">mhw@wittsend.com</a>&gt;</span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div>On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 11:36 -0400,
                                  Michael H. Warfield wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:50
                                  +0000, Beddingfield, Allen wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; So, are any of you doing any
                                  Linux on PowerPC? &nbsp;Someone gave me an
                                  old<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; 2Ghz PowerMac G5 (one of the
                                  big full tower aluminum ones that was<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; about $3000+ back when it
                                  was new), with 3 GB of memory, and a
                                  1TB<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; hard drive. &nbsp;It works
                                  great/has nothing wrong with it - not
                                  even a<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; scratch on the exterior. &nbsp;It
                                  looks like Debian or Yellowdog seem to
                                  be<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; the main options for PPC
                                  these days... &nbsp;this thing may be my
                                  weekend<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; experiment :)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  &gt; Wow... &nbsp;Weird how things just
                                  synchronisticly come together...<br>
                                  <br>
                                  &gt; No, I'm not actively working on
                                  PPC now although I do have the
                                  hardware<br>
                                  &gt; available to me. &nbsp;In fact, said
                                  hardware may be a twin of your own.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  &gt; Be that as it may. &nbsp;Fedora has
                                  been released on PPC (32 and 64).<br>
                                  <br>
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                                Ah, crap... &nbsp;Strike that...<br>
                                <br>
                                &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PowerPC/F20_PPC_release_announcement"
                                  target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PowerPC/F20_PPC_release_announcement</a><br>
                                <br>
                                Reading in more detail was this
                                unexpected gem (rhinestone)...<br>
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                              <div>yeah<br>
                                <br>
                                " Apple MacPPC systems are not
                                supported, have not been tested, and are
                                not expected to work."<br>
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                              <div>Very geared toward new IBM Power
                                systems.<br>
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                                    color="#888888"><br>
                                    --<br>
                                    Supported Hardware<br>
                                    <br>
                                    IBM POWER servers are the only
                                    systems fully supported by Fedora
                                    for<br>
                                    Power at this time.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Apple MacPPC systems are not
                                    supported, have not been tested, and
                                    are<br>
                                    not expected to work.<br>
                                    --<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Damn... &nbsp;Guess that G5 sits a while
                                    longer...<br>
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                                  <div><br>
                                    &gt; The coincidence is that I'm
                                    fielding some bugzilla reports on
                                    LXC at the<br>
                                    &gt; moment and one of them is a
                                    failure to install lxc-templates on
                                    a ppc64<br>
                                    &gt; arch due to a dependency on
                                    busybox (which is required). &nbsp;Seems
                                    that<br>
                                    &gt; someone forgot to build busybox
                                    for F20 ppc even though it's present
                                    in<br>
                                    &gt; F19 ppc. &nbsp;Still looking for who
                                    to lay hands on for that oversight.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; &gt; --<br>
                                    &gt; &gt; Allen Beddingfield<br>
                                    &gt; &gt; Systems Engineer<br>
                                    &gt; &gt; The University of Alabama<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; Regards,<br>
                                    &gt; Mike<br>
                                    <br>
                                    --<br>
                                    Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                    &nbsp; &nbsp;NIC whois: MHW9 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| An
                                    optimist believes we live in the
                                    best of all<br>
                                    &nbsp;PGP Key: 0x674627FF &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|
                                    possible worlds. &nbsp;A pessimist is
                                    sure of it!<br>
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