[ale] Advice requested on samba solutions.

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Fri Jul 25 13:15:59 EDT 2014


The btrfs would be under the samba vfs layer. The vfs is used by samba to
map between the different permission and metadata schemes between *nix and
blunders.
On Jul 25, 2014 12:15 PM, "Edward Holcroft" <eholcroft at mkainc.com> wrote:

> I'd like to hear what happens with your shadow copy testing. I've been
> looking into it for my win2003 replacement on which we use Shadow Copy.
>
> How does btrfs relate to samba's vfs option? I had not even thought of
> using btrfs on my servers. Thought it was still under development. Is it
> ready to deploy? If it offers an easier way to do something resembling
> shadow copy, I'm in. Since I'm just getting started, now would be the time
> for me to jump on board.
>
> ed
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Michael B. Trausch <mbt at naunetcorp.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 07/20/2014 10:49 PM, David Millians wrote:
> >
> >> I've used samba and AD together. I just don't know if:
> >> A) anybody had just made something like this work with wins servers and
> >> lmhosts/hosts (it didn't the other day in limited testing)
> >> B) anybody has gone the SMB 4.0 route and made a PDC and would swear
> they
> >> aren't ever going back
> >>
> >
> > This largely depends on business requirements---of course, given
> unlimited
> > time, anything is possible.  There is enough implemented in Samba 4.x
> that
> > it is possible to achieve Microsoft-less servers (as long as you don't
> have
> > requirements which depend on *other* Microsoft components, such as IIS or
> > any of the Microsoft platform-specific proprietary applications which
> will
> > run on neither Wine nor Mono).
> >
> > Bird's eye view:
> >
> >  * Migrating from an existing AD infrastructure to Samba 4 is
> >    relatively easy, since it can replicate back and forth.  I need to
> >    do testing with newer versions of Windows, but I'm lacking in
> >    licenses on those.  I can say that it's really easy to migrate from
> >    Win2k and Win2k3 to Samba 4.  It should be relatively easy to
> >    migrate from 2k8 to Samba 4.  I cannot say anything about 2k12
> >    because they changed several things, but it should be at least
> possible.
> >  * You'll need to test, test, test, test!
> >  * If you have _applications_ which run on the Windows Server (e.g., if
> >    the Windows Server is providing more than infrastructure services),
> >    this can be a problem.  Some applications can be migrated to run on
> >    a Linux server using Wine or Mono.  (Older native-code applications
> >    can typically be run under Wine; ASP.NET or applications which rely
> >    on the CLR will require Mono.)  Each application must be
> >    *thoroughly* tested by its actual end-users to ensure that all
> >    functionality used in production is tested.
> >
> > Permissions can sometimes be an issue, but once you have the initial
> setup
> > there complete (you'll need to internalize an understanding of Windows
> ACL
> > --> POSIX ACL mapping), you'll be fine.
> >
> > There is a module for Samba now, too, that will use btrfs for
> implementing
> > things like volume shadow copy service and so forth. I have not played
> with
> > this yet, however I plan to do so (hopefully) soon.
> >
> >     --- Mike
> >
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