[ale] What did we want?
Charles Shapiro
hooterpincher at gmail.com
Fri Jan 31 09:17:41 EST 2014
Heh. The Android world has been treating me pretty ok. I know that
cyanogenmod (http://cyanogenmod.org) just made a new windows-only
installer, but installing it from linux is relatively simple. Plus,
developing from Linux to Android is surprisingly easy.
-- CHS
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:23 PM, William Wylde <durtybill at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with this. Even my dad, who is mostly computer illiterate, runs
> Google Chrome and the Zorin fork of Ubuntu on several machines. Sadly,
> some things still require M$ or Crapple (like the crappy iPhone I have,
> which won't sync with anything but windbloze and Crapple OS), but overall,
> I think Linux use has expanded the world over. I've also found that
> nowadays drivers for various hardware is supported better, and more likely
> to be automagically installed or loaded than with windbloze. I.E.
> Windoze, in their efforts to provide backdoors for the NSA and pursue their
> unending striving for vendor lock-in, has become less user friendly than
> Linux. Crapple is always un-upgradeable, and every few years locks out
> backwards-compatibility in an effort to force more hardware purchases.
> Plus, crapple is crap. The iPhone 4s I have has many manufacturing defects
> in the screen (bubbles in the glass) and in the display (a black spot-
> which I understand is rather common), and, of course, cannot be upgraded in
> any fashion, and is a pain in the ass to use in so many ways- particularly
> iTunes, and the camera app crashes as often as it works.
>
> I think Linux is safe in it's future. As was noted, it just requires less
> tech support to use it now.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I dunno about that. Maybe Linux just got good enough that a whole lot of
>> tech support isn't needed. My brother now runs linux on his machines, and
>> while he is a power user he has no skill or interest in actually
>> programming. He just finds Ubuntu easier and more secure than the
>> alternatives.
>>
>> -- CHS
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jeff Hubbs <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/28/14, 6:34 PM, Vernard Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Summary: The attendance itself was a sign that ALE is on its last legs.
>>>> It doesn't matter what we want as obviously no one showed up to even state
>>>> what they wanted :)
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it's because Linux as a community-based alternative to big
>>> software vendor hegemony is on its last legs. A Windows alternative with
>>> excellent hardware support and buy-it-and-turn-it-on convenience appeared
>>> in the form of a re-ascendant Apple, and most Linux usage was vacuumed up
>>> by a traditional for-pay model as presented by Red Hat. If you have
>>> vendor-sourced classes and certification tests instead of self-assembling
>>> forums, IRC channels, and listservs, community is no longer all that
>>> important.
>>>
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