<div dir="ltr"><div>Heh. The Android world has been treating me pretty ok. I know that cyanogenmod (<a href="http://cyanogenmod.org">http://cyanogenmod.org</a>) just made a new windows-only installer, but installing it from linux is relatively simple. Plus, developing from Linux to Android is surprisingly easy.<br>
<br></div>-- CHS<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:23 PM, William Wylde <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:durtybill@gmail.com" target="_blank">durtybill@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree with this. Even my dad, who is mostly computer illiterate, runs Google Chrome and the Zorin fork of Ubuntu on several machines. Sadly, some things still require M$ or Crapple (like the crappy iPhone I have, which won't sync with anything but windbloze and Crapple OS), but overall, I think Linux use has expanded the world over. I've also found that nowadays drivers for various hardware is supported better, and more likely to be automagically installed or loaded than with windbloze. I.E. Windoze, in their efforts to provide backdoors for the NSA and pursue their unending striving for vendor lock-in, has become less user friendly than Linux. Crapple is always un-upgradeable, and every few years locks out backwards-compatibility in an effort to force more hardware purchases. Plus, crapple is crap. The iPhone 4s I have has many manufacturing defects in the screen (bubbles in the glass) and in the display (a black spot- which I understand is rather common), and, of course, cannot be upgraded in any fashion, and is a pain in the ass to use in so many ways- particularly iTunes, and the camera app crashes as often as it works. <br>
<br></div>I think Linux is safe in it's future. As was noted, it just requires less tech support to use it now. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Charles Shapiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com" target="_blank">hooterpincher@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I dunno about that. Maybe Linux just got good enough that a whole lot of tech support isn't needed. My brother now runs linux on his machines, and while he is a power user he has no skill or interest in actually programming. He just finds Ubuntu easier and more secure than the alternatives.<br>
<br></div>-- CHS<br><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jeff Hubbs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net" target="_blank">jhubbslist@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On 1/28/14, 6:34 PM, Vernard Martin wrote:<br>
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Summary: The attendance itself was a sign that ALE is on its last legs. It doesn't matter what we want as obviously no one showed up to even state what they wanted :)<br>
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Perhaps it's because Linux as a community-based alternative to big software vendor hegemony is on its last legs. A Windows alternative with excellent hardware support and buy-it-and-turn-it-on convenience appeared in the form of a re-ascendant Apple, and most Linux usage was vacuumed up by a traditional for-pay model as presented by Red Hat. If you have vendor-sourced classes and certification tests instead of self-assembling forums, IRC channels, and listservs, community is no longer all that important.<div>
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