[ale] help with java crash

Fri Jun 28 19:48:30 EDT 2013

Hi all,

Thanks for all these tips.  I hope to be troubleshooting this again next week.  The app I want to run is the fxtrade web app for oanda.com currency trading.  My account is on the scale that I'll be trading pennies, but I want to practice.  Most anywhere else, you have to trade multiples of $ 1K at a time.  I don't think I've ever had this running in Linux.  Anyone else can try it by setting up a dummy account with pretend money.  I'll probably try upgrading to openjdk 7 then work my way through the list of suggestions.

Tonight I came home and found that my two main desktop systems and my dehumidifier off due to a thunderstorm that went through and glitched the power.  Restarting things is always fun (not) and time consuming.  I'm running the desktop machines at high power consumption levels, so I don't have them on UPS at the moment.  I hope nothing is damaged.

Other than that, I like to do fun things on Friday evening.  I don't consider being outside in 90 degree weather fun.  But, I'm hoping to start playing with a graphics drawing tablet (interface / not computer) and book and dvd for the Blender 3d modeling system.

Sincerely,

Ron

"Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at water.com> wrote:

>Later versions of Firefox are disabling the Java 1.6 plugin as insecure
>(at least on Windows).   Typically they prompt me to enable it each
>time I use Java since it is the only version I have installed on
>Windows.  (I have to use 1.6 for older tools we have here.)
>
>Also I’ve told it to launch the Java Console any time I use Java so I
>have some clue as to where it is in the load – some Java applets load
>very slowly.
>
>Linux can have more than one version of Java installed.    It may be
>you aren’t using the version you think you are.   On some distributions
>you can use the “alternatives” setup to decide which one to use by
>default.
>
>Do you have Java NoScript or similar plugin in your Firefox?  It may be
>it is silently blocking things you haven’t allowed.
>
>
>
>
>
>From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
>Scott Plante
>Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:47 PM
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>Subject: Re: [ale] help with java crash
>
>For what it's worth, the "Do you have Java" applet at Java.com didn't
>work with IcedTea at all for me, but our own Java application came up
>just fine. Also, the Java console never came up, but I did find stdout
>and stderr in these files:
>
>~/.icedteaplugin/java.stdout
>~/.icedteaplugin/java.stderr
>
>The expected things appeared in those files when I ran our own Java
>app. And lots of stuff appeared when I tried to run the Java.com
>applet, but nothing that explained why it didn't appear to run
>correctly in the browser.
>
>Scott
>________________________________
>From: "Scott Plante"
><splante at insightsys.com<mailto:splante at insightsys.com>>
>To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:01:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [ale] help with java crash
>Hi Ron,
>
>You should find something called the "IceTea-web Control Panel" on your
>menu. Then click "Debugging" on the left and Enable logging and Java
>Console: Show on startup. At least, that's what I have on OpenSUSE 12.3
>with OpenJDK 7.0.21.
>When your Java applet begins, a separate window should then appear with
>log messages.
>I haven't had that much luck with the OpenJDK implementation on Linux
>and have been using the Oracle JVM, but I haven't tried it for a year
>or so, so perhaps it's pretty much caught up now. As I just did a new
>install, I haven't gotten switched over from the IcedTea version yet on
>this box. Is this a private web app or public? Applet or JNLP? Firefox
>or Chrome?
>
>Scott
>________________________________
>From: "Ron Frazier (ALE)"
><atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com<mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>>
>To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:03:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [ale] help with java crash
>
>Hi James,
>
>I see your point.  However, there is no error that appears on the
>screen.  The tab holding java.com just locks up, and the whole browser
>becomes unresponsive to the point of being unusable.  If there's a log
>file that's relevant, I would need to know where to find it and what to
>look for.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron
>
>
>James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com<mailto:james.sumners at gmail.com>>
>wrote:
>
>>Asking for help with "why" any program would crash in any way without
>>providing at least an error message, if not a crash log, is a
>>completely pointless endeavor. There's nothing we can do to help.
>>
>>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE)
>><atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com<mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>>
>wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been trying to avoid using java since all these problems have
>>been
>>> happening with security.  I've actually uninstalled it on all my
>>Windows
>>> machines.  However, there are a few web apps which require it.
>>>
>>> I was running a mint 13 vm in virtualbox.  It has the default java
>>system,
>>> which I believe is openjdk 6.  I go to java.com, click do I have
>>java?, then
>>> verify java version.  It crashes and locks up not only the tab in
>>firefox
>>> but essentially the whole browser.  It also locks up when I try to
>>access
>>> the web app I'm wanting to use.  Anybody know why it would do that?
>>Is
>>> there any alternative other than installing Oracle Java?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Ron
>>
>>
>>--
>>James Sumners
>>http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/
>>
>>"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts
>>pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it
>>is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become
>>drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
>>
>>Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)
>>CH:D 59
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(PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very quickly.)

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