[ale] OT: check light diagnostic tool
Jay Lozier
jslozier at gmail.com
Thu Jun 13 13:25:53 EDT 2013
Doesn't Ford have an ownership stake in Mazda?
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:14:33 -0400, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Mazda and Ford are still together. Their cars share same platform in
> >similar class cars. Althout Mazda tends to give their cars a bit
> >sportier nature than Ford's.
>
> On Friday, June 14, 2013, Scott Castaline <skotchman at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> In the early to mid 90's, Mazda had a SUV I think it was called
>> Navahoe that was actually a re-branded Ford Exploder. My 2nd Mazda PU
>> (B2300) would suddenly accelerate (sound familiar?) when I was braking
>> to stop. The first time it happened I was pulling up to a toll plaza
>> and didn't fully realize what was happening almost hit the car in
>> front of me. Several people were having similar problems in both Ford
>> and Mazda. Ford quietly fixed their own labeled trucks and denied that
>> what was happening on the Mazda version had anything to do with the
>> Ford. Mazda engineers even found the bad code in the system which was
>> Ford and not Mazda.
>>
>> Back in 93 Ford had new small car that was a sporty design I can't
>> remember the name of it, but it was a fairly fast car. Mazda also had
>> re-branded this car and had their version of it. The Mazda version had
>> a different body but everything under the body was Ford. The first
>> year of this car (I think 91) the Mazda version had a unique tilt
>> steering wheel where the entire instrument panel would tilt so that
>> all gauges were visible at all times. They stopped after 2 years
>> though, not sure why. It seemed to work well at least in the one a
>> friend owned who let me drive it.
>>
>>
>> On 06/13/2013 05:25 AM, Michael Trausch wrote:
>>> Seriously? I had no idea Mazda and ford were bedded at any point in
>>> the past... Well, if that's the case, have fun. Everyone I know
>>> with 90s era Rangers and derivatives have some serious issues.
>>> Lighting problems, computer problems... Don't get me started on the
>>> dome light and speed sensor combo on a single circuit...
>>>
>>> On Jun 12, 2013 11:17 PM, "Scott Castaline" <skotchman at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:skotchman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You may want to check what Ford Ranger owners are experiencing as
>>> the B series Mazadas are actually Ford Rangers. I had 3 of them in
>>> the mid 90's and there were intermittent computer related problems
>>> with them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/12/2013 01:53 PM, Geoffrey Myers wrote:
>>>> Good stuff there. 109k miles. Not a lot for a 1999, but good
>>>> many miles.
>>>
>>>> One thing I have noticed just over the past few days is engine
>>>> noise in the radio. Not seen that before.
>>>
>>>> -- From my iPhone Geoffrey Myers
>>>
>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gccfof5 at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:gccfof5 at gmail.com <mailto:gccfof5 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I have not seen a "check gauge" light, but for a vehicle of
>>>>> that age, I would suspect a failing sensor. However, it would
>>>>> be a good idea to clean your battery terminals if you haven't
>>>>> done that in a while. All manner of spurious computer codes can
>>>>> be generated when the power level (generally due to marginal
>>>>> ground connections since US cars are pretty much all NEGATIVE
>>>>> ground systems).
>>>>>
>>>>> If that is of no help, sensors that might be suspect would be
>>>>> Coolant Temp, MAF or AMP and Intake Air Temp sensor depending
>>>>> on what type of air metering system your vehicle has. It could
>>>>> also be an oil pressure sensor, on some cars a failure of this
>>>>> sensor will kill the spark and cause driveability issues. One
>>>>> more that just occurred to me is the possibility of a faulty
>>>>> fuel pressure sensor (often part of the fuel pump assembly in
>>>>> the tank, which could also be failing with this age vehicle,
>>>>> depending on the mileage). I wouldn't suspect the knock
>>>>> sensors, however a look at the plugs and the spark wires
>>>>> (assuming you don't have coil on plug) might be in order.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has you MPG changed since the light has started coming on? In
>>>>> my experience the most common causes of check engine lights
>>>>> being illuminated are loose gas cap, other vacuum leak, clogged
>>>>> EGR pipe/valve and O2 sensor [heater] failure (roughly but not
>>>>> absolutely in that order). But none of these are "gauged"
>>>>> sensors so I don't see how they could be involved in your
>>>>> case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE)
>>>>> <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com
>>> <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>
>>>>> <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com
>>> <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From other comments, it sounds like the check gauge light
>>>>> (never heard of that) is different from check engine, so this
>>>>> may not be relevant to you. For what it's worth, I had an
>>>>> intermittent check engine light on a 2002 toyota camry that I
>>>>> ultimately traded. It went on and off for years with sometimes
>>>>> months between cycles. We managed to read a scan code on it
>>>>> while it was on once and the mechanic said the catalytic
>>>>> converter was on the verge of failure. It would do slightly
>>>>> better or worse depending on drive time, ambient conditions,
>>>>> and fuel characteristics (I assume). I managed to get the
>>>>> light to go off a couple of times with a fuel additive. O2
>>>>> sensors and mass air flow sensors can also cause problems like
>>>>> this. You probably already know it, but you cannot pass an
>>>>> emissions test if such a light is on. If I remember correctly,
>>>>> and what people may not know, is that an emission test result
>>>>> is valid for up to 1 year. So, you can get the emissions
>>>>> tested when the li! ght is off, and then go use that months
>>>>> later to buy your tag.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Geoffrey Myers <lists at serioustechnology.com
>>> <mailto:lists at serioustechnology.com>
>>>>> <mailto:lists at serioustechnology.com
>>> <mailto:lists at serioustechnology.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it is for a 1999 Mazda pickup. Really would like
>>>>>> immediate results, so don't want to wait for over night
>>>>>> shipping. Took it by autozone a while back, but did not show
>>>>>> anything. Also, it
>>>>> doesn't stay
>>>>>> on. Has been blinking on and off for a couple of months.
>>>>>> Just
>>>>> recently
>>>>>> it has been coming on more regularly, hence the inquiry.
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>> check my
>>>>>> local auto parts stores.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- From my iPhone Geoffrey Myers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:49 AM, neal <neal at mnopltd.com
>>> <mailto:neal at mnopltd.com>
>>>>> <mailto:neal at mnopltd.com <mailto:neal at mnopltd.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you need immediate results, as noted Autozone will do
>>>>>>> for free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that stock ODBC readers will NOT find all
>>>>>>> manufacturer
>>>>> data, at
>>>>>> least for Toyota and Mercedes there is a wealth of data ODBC
>>>>>> cannot access - only dealer computers can. In many cases
>>>>>> the DTC code is only an approximation of what is really
>>>>>> going on. You can experiment with crowd-sourcing your DTC
>>>>>> code against what others have done
>>>>> to fix,
>>>>>> but, unless it's cheap to try, you might be better off
>>>>>> getting the dealer to read the real codes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil Turmel <philip at turmel.org <mailto:philip at turmel.org>
>>> <mailto:philip at turmel.org <mailto:philip at turmel.org>>>
>>>>>>> wrote: On 06/12/2013 09:48 AM, Geoffrey Myers wrote:
>>>>>>>> Looking for recommendations. Can one be purchased
>>>>>>>> locally?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been extremely happy with a simple "ELM-327"
>>>>>>> bluetooth dongle
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> "Torque Pro" on my android phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>>
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