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<body><div>Doesn't Ford have an ownership stake in Mazda?</div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:14:33 -0400, Boris Borisov <bugyatl@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div><br><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex">Mazda and Ford are still together. Their cars share same platform in similar class cars. Althout Mazda tends to give their cars a bit sportier nature than Ford's.<br><br>On Friday, June 14, 2013, Scott Castaline <<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com">skotchman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>><br>> In the early to mid 90's, Mazda had a SUV I think it was called<br>> Navahoe that was actually a re-branded Ford Exploder. My 2nd Mazda PU<br>
> (B2300) would suddenly accelerate (sound familiar?) when I was braking<br>> to stop. The first time it happened I was pulling up to a toll plaza<br>> and didn't fully realize what was happening almost hit the car in<br>
> front of me. Several people were having similar problems in both Ford<br>> and Mazda. Ford quietly fixed their own labeled trucks and denied that<br>> what was happening on the Mazda version had anything to do with the<br>
> Ford. Mazda engineers even found the bad code in the system which was<br>> Ford and not Mazda.<br>><br>> Back in 93 Ford had new small car that was a sporty design I can't<br>> remember the name of it, but it was a fairly fast car. Mazda also had<br>
> re-branded this car and had their version of it. The Mazda version had<br>> a different body but everything under the body was Ford. The first<br>> year of this car (I think 91) the Mazda version had a unique tilt<br>
> steering wheel where the entire instrument panel would tilt so that<br>> all gauges were visible at all times. They stopped after 2 years<br>> though, not sure why. It seemed to work well at least in the one a<br>
> friend owned who let me drive it.<br>><br>><br>> On 06/13/2013 05:25 AM, Michael Trausch wrote:<br>>> Seriously? I had no idea Mazda and ford were bedded at any point in<br>>> the past... Well, if that's the case, have fun. Everyone I know<br>
>> with 90s era Rangers and derivatives have some serious issues.<br>>> Lighting problems, computer problems... Don't get me started on the<br>>> dome light and speed sensor combo on a single circuit...<br>
>><br>>> On Jun 12, 2013 11:17 PM, "Scott Castaline" <<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com">skotchman@gmail.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com">skotchman@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>> You may want to check what Ford Ranger owners are experiencing as<br>>> the B series Mazadas are actually Ford Rangers. I had 3 of them in<br>>> the mid 90's and there were intermittent computer related problems<br>
>> with them.<br>>><br>>><br>>> On 06/12/2013 01:53 PM, Geoffrey Myers wrote:<br>>>> Good stuff there. 109k miles. Not a lot for a 1999, but good<br>>>> many miles.<br>>><br>
>>> One thing I have noticed just over the past few days is engine<br>>>> noise in the radio. Not seen that before.<br>>><br>>>> -- From my iPhone Geoffrey Myers<br>>><br>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Greg Clifton <<a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com">gccfof5@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com">gccfof5@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com">gccfof5@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com">gccfof5@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>>>> I have not seen a "check gauge" light, but for a vehicle of<br>>>>> that age, I would suspect a failing sensor. However, it would<br>>>>> be a good idea to clean your battery terminals if you haven't<br>
>>>> done that in a while. All manner of spurious computer codes can<br>>>>> be generated when the power level (generally due to marginal<br>>>>> ground connections since US cars are pretty much all NEGATIVE<br>
>>>> ground systems).<br>>>>><br>>>>> If that is of no help, sensors that might be suspect would be<br>>>>> Coolant Temp, MAF or AMP and Intake Air Temp sensor depending<br>
>>>> on what type of air metering system your vehicle has. It could<br>>>>> also be an oil pressure sensor, on some cars a failure of this<br>>>>> sensor will kill the spark and cause driveability issues. One<br>
>>>> more that just occurred to me is the possibility of a faulty<br>>>>> fuel pressure sensor (often part of the fuel pump assembly in<br>>>>> the tank, which could also be failing with this age vehicle,<br>
>>>> depending on the mileage). I wouldn't suspect the knock<br>>>>> sensors, however a look at the plugs and the spark wires<br>>>>> (assuming you don't have coil on plug) might be in order.<br>
>>>><br>>>>> Has you MPG changed since the light has started coming on? In<br>>>>> my experience the most common causes of check engine lights<br>>>>> being illuminated are loose gas cap, other vacuum leak, clogged<br>
>>>> EGR pipe/valve and O2 sensor [heater] failure (roughly but not<br>>>>> absolutely in that order). But none of these are "gauged"<br>>>>> sensors so I don't see how they could be involved in your<br>
>>>> case.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE)<br>>>>> <<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>><br>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> From other comments, it sounds like the check gauge light<br>
>>>> (never heard of that) is different from check engine, so this<br>>>>> may not be relevant to you. For what it's worth, I had an<br>>>>> intermittent check engine light on a 2002 toyota camry that I<br>
>>>> ultimately traded. It went on and off for years with sometimes<br>>>>> months between cycles. We managed to read a scan code on it<br>>>>> while it was on once and the mechanic said the catalytic<br>
>>>> converter was on the verge of failure. It would do slightly<br>>>>> better or worse depending on drive time, ambient conditions,<br>>>>> and fuel characteristics (I assume). I managed to get the<br>
>>>> light to go off a couple of times with a fuel additive. O2<br>>>>> sensors and mass air flow sensors can also cause problems like<br>>>>> this. You probably already know it, but you cannot pass an<br>
>>>> emissions test if such a light is on. If I remember correctly,<br>>>>> and what people may not know, is that an emission test result<br>>>>> is valid for up to 1 year. So, you can get the emissions<br>
>>>> tested when the li! ght is off, and then go use that months<br>>>>> later to buy your tag.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Sincerely,<br>>>>><br>>>>> Ron<br>>>>><br>
>>>><br>>>>> Geoffrey Myers <<a href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com">lists@serioustechnology.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com">lists@serioustechnology.com</a>><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com">lists@serioustechnology.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lists@serioustechnology.com">lists@serioustechnology.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>>>>>> Yes, it is for a 1999 Mazda pickup. Really would like<br>>>>>> immediate results, so don't want to wait for over night<br>>>>>> shipping. Took it by autozone a while back, but did not show<br>
>>>>> anything. Also, it<br>>>>> doesn't stay<br>>>>>> on. Has been blinking on and off for a couple of months.<br>>>>>> Just<br>>>>> recently<br>>>>>> it has been coming on more regularly, hence the inquiry.<br>
>>>>> I'll<br>>>>> check my<br>>>>>> local auto parts stores.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> -- From my iPhone Geoffrey Myers<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:49 AM, neal <<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com">neal@mnopltd.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com">neal@mnopltd.com</a>><br>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com">neal@mnopltd.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com">neal@mnopltd.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>>>>>>> If you need immediate results, as noted Autozone will do<br>>>>>>> for free.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Note that stock ODBC readers will NOT find all<br>
>>>>>> manufacturer<br>>>>> data, at<br>>>>>> least for Toyota and Mercedes there is a wealth of data ODBC<br>>>>>> cannot access - only dealer computers can. In many cases<br>
>>>>> the DTC code is only an approximation of what is really<br>>>>>> going on. You can experiment with crowd-sourcing your DTC<br>>>>>> code against what others have done<br>
>>>> to fix,<br>>>>>> but, unless it's cheap to try, you might be better off<br>>>>>> getting the dealer to read the real codes.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Phil Turmel <<a href="mailto:philip@turmel.org">philip@turmel.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:philip@turmel.org">philip@turmel.org</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:philip@turmel.org">philip@turmel.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:philip@turmel.org">philip@turmel.org</a>>>><br>>>>>>> wrote: On 06/12/2013 09:48 AM, Geoffrey Myers wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> Looking for recommendations. Can one be purchased<br>>>>>>>> locally?<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> I've been extremely happy with a simple "ELM-327"<br>
>>>>>> bluetooth dongle<br>>>>>> and<br>>>>>>> "Torque Pro" on my android phone.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Phil<br>>>>>>><br>
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>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> --<br>>>>><br>>>>> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard<br>>>>> and K-9 Mail. Please excuse my potential brevity if I'm typing<br>
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</blockquote><br><br><br><div id="M2Signature"><div>-- </div><div><div>Jay Lozier<br>jslozier@gmail.com</div><div><br></div></div></div></body></html>