[ale] SSN and jobs-list

[Jay Lozier]

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 20:41:20 -0400, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've often said there's money to be HAD by doing the recruiting thing  
> >"right".  Of course, you'd need to get the word out, but imagine this...
>
> You get some architecture level folks on your staff...  A Sr. Systems  
> >person for the *nixes and one for the winders.  A DBA with a good broad  
> >swatch of dbs, a dev who's got a wide array of things... you get the  
> >picture.  I mean, you'd have to spend quite a year to staff, but  
> >everyone you represent would have to pass your "experts".  Maybe even  
> >for startup you could use folks like that on a retainer basis,  
> >eventually bringing them full time eventually.  
>
> The candidates could be assured they wouldn't have a google monkey  
> >playing "search and destroy" with a keyword from your resume from over  
> a >decade ago that you only worked on for one project and now it's the  
> >thing that'll get them paid.
The problem is that is how many companies screen resumes by keyword. The  
only time this does not happen is when you manage to bypass HR somehow.
>
> The clients would be assured that a highly technical recruiting staff  
> >would put the candidates through a gauntlet of evaluation they MUST  
> pass >to be submitted to the client.  Those experts would ensure they  
> weren't >wasting anyone's time in whom gets submitted.  Either you've  
> got the >goods or you don't.  
> Finally, the recruiting firm itself wouldn't work on some multiplier of  
> >the hired person's salary or some arbitrary headhunting fee, but would  
> >be a flat rate per head based on the quality of the eval/selection.   
> The >firm could charge more because the quality of the selections would  
> be so >much higher.
>
>
> Obviously there's a metric crap-ton of details surrounding that to be  
> >worked out, but I bet it could work.  
>
> --j
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Make a solid proposal! I've always wanted the list to be more >>than it  
>> is but I'm not in a position to drive a change.
>> I would love to see some kind of professional organization grow >>out  
>> of it that supports the independent IT consultant.
>> On Jun 6, 2013 5:42 PM, "leam hall" <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Not sure any financial institution would be in such a rush as >>>to  
>>> require an "urgent" request to a generalist recruiter. Most >>>7-10  
>>> year experts won't jump that quickly without due cause. >>>It's urgent  
>>> to him to get paid, but not to anyone else.
>>> On the flip side, you could probably monetize the jobs list; >>>anyone  
>>> can subscribe but recruiters pay a small fee to post. >>>If we could  
>>> work up the readership and their qualifications it >>>would give a  
>>> recruiter a rich location to search. We could >>>also do stuff to help  
>>> ALE members improve their resumes, etc.
>>>
>>> Leam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Jim Kinney >>><jim.kinney at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> I don't even read his stuff any more. I just forward them. >>>>Maybe  
>>>> I should yell at him for being a twit.
>>>>
>>>> or just toss his posts in the /dev/null bin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:19 PM, leam hall >>>><leamhall at gmail.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hopefully no one gives Preetham the last 5 of their SSN.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leam
>>>>>
>>>>> --Mind on a Mission
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