[ale] FTP files

Wed Jan 23 13:56:44 EST 2013

Yep – then you’ll have people wonder if they were big ENDian or little ENDian…

From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kinney
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:40 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] FTP files

The concept of "octal sheep" is somehow disturbing
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com<mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>> wrote:
But were they binary, hex, octal, or decimal sheep?   8-)

Ron

Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com<mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>> wrote:

>and ANOTHER thread devolves into a geezer reminiscence-fest
>
>back in the day before electricity when we had to actually count the
>sheep....
>
>On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Scott Castaline
><skotchman at gmail.com<mailto:skotchman at gmail.com>>wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 01/23/2013 11:33 AM, Jay Lozier wrote:
>> > On 01/23/2013 10:51 AM, Mike Harrison wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
>> >>> I remember the old days when uucp was the way to go.   Also
>> >>> with the cu command you had ~get and ~put options.
>> >>
>> >> Oh dear.. memories of UUCP. Once upon a time I built custom email
>> >> gateways for CC:mail to UUCP and lots of other strange variations
>> >> of UUCP to old non standardized pre-internet email systems.
>> >>
>> >> At $work, we doing a lot of work with "smart grid" integration,
>> >> which does a lot of store and forward file transfers, meters to
>> >> collectors to communictions engines to.. databases.. and back
>> >> down the chain as well. Every vendor seems to be re-inventing
>> >> their own variation of what we would consider UUCP, without
>> >> standards to bind the vendors together. It's frustrating,
>> >> especially when the 20-something engineer at the metering
>> >> company thinks he has invented store and forward
>> >> communications...
>> >>
>> >> I often think studying the history of technology is as important
>> >> as the future of technology.
>> > Like why keyboard layouts still use the QWERTY layout has to do
>> > with mechanical typewriters keeping common key pairs from jamming
>> > (or least that is the story I have always heard). Too many people
>> > learned to type on a QWERTY typewriter that it is easier to keep
>> > the layout than to change to another.
>> >>
>> >> Spikey Haired Kid: Why do all these fixed length text files have
>> >> to be so narrow with multiple lines and line format indicators?
>> >>
>> >> Geezer: The data format originated on punch cards.
>> >>
>> >> Kid: What's a punch card?
>> > Ouch, I remember them. How about punched tape?
>> >
>> I remember punched tape. How about toggle switches, rocker switches
>> and red LEDs.
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux)
>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/
>>
>> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRABSUAAoJEIefqZ0kni1dsUAP/j44g/z1vyn3w5PkCM/bZD+U
>> IG1QaEYj7Z9kkQmR9zSaUdfAMTQxnhmRmhIxXRLR9Xmjfg3snA9F2gjPJdrAqBLR
>> XC286m247VSTAHHZ5hvbHyIVjl+Ms+gy5TsThPe6z/waP6lXzAZ8qXn9b8vbd1Sq
>> 0f5qiWv4jQdzHemMTXCnF+5LjN7z+bfNQmDF9l/J8E2D0kmiCoUNya78Rq1B2rnW
>> lbtBMWD/i9fOgYBEgAxJi4MB2vAm6tA4bQEmAyn8RTbF5d+krvZhsF/U2JaFmdI/
>> cwgJn0mKc9P7b+JR/dSQhvzDCr6hcxsJZLA7a8fEPy3lixS6p/DWi1t3FEqEEDeZ
>> mCTfsmfVkhdvJLqdckanKls8BTlEmjTL1gqCT0gAaeDbmkcZ9rcBvn9sglKsiIWk
>> oArF59SXrDfmUKP4x6NsRF4CrNzWv5qDfJDA35jbktnr8xV91z4Hljp2ojdFnfD2
>> dh/1arejK8ddJjUrZMM7iw9WxCYPlmirt3ljLYqbrhOQ0qtY/Yj/jjVejGqbCgSr
>> 0nPb8TiNbLCdJZOvV9lYjhZXEG9e1Lm3gbMrhKK7lGBPlvvysj5j9HACpYrq3nkT
>> LYL/pCK3TAlAih3L2gYZvkWM4gXHB/E4ie6xhT7pcnHrgdJ/b5uXR6/3UuFINNMh
>> f4diInKQSZAT/9WrKnPR
>> =a9lb
>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>>

_______________________________________________
>> Ale mailing list
>> Ale at ale.org<mailto:Ale at ale.org>
>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
>>

--
Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9 Mail.
Please excuse my potential brevity.

(To whom it may concern.  My email address has changed.  Replying to former
messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong
address.  Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)

(PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very quickly.)

Ron Frazier
770-205-9422<tel:770-205-9422> (O)   Leave a message.
linuxdude AT techstarship.com<http://techstarship.com>

_______________________________________________
Ale mailing list
Ale at ale.org<mailto:Ale at ale.org>
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo

--
--
James P. Kinney III

Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain

http://electjimkinney.org
http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/

Athena®, Created for the Cause™

Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer

How and Why I Should Support Bottled Water!
Do not relinquish your right to choose bottled water as a healthy alternative to beverages that contain sugar, calories, etc. Your support of bottled water will make a difference! Your signatures count! Go to http://www.bottledwatermatters.org/luv-bottledwater-iframe/dswaters and sign a petition to support your right to always choose bottled water. Help fight federal and state issues, such as bottle deposits (or taxes) and organizations that want to ban the sale of bottled water. Support community curbside recycling programs. Support bottled water as a healthy way to maintain proper hydration. Our goal is 50,000 signatures. Share this petition with your friends and family today!

---------------------------------
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you.
----------------------------------

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail.ale.org/pipermail/ale/attachments/20130123/c75e5e30/attachment.html>