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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yep – then you’ll have people wonder if they were big ENDian or little ENDian…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] FTP files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The concept of "octal sheep" is somehow disturbing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com" target="_blank">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But were they binary, hex, octal, or decimal sheep? 8-)<br>
<br>
Ron<o:p></o:p></p>
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Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>and ANOTHER thread devolves into a geezer reminiscence-fest<br>
><br>
>back in the day before electricity when we had to actually count the<br>
>sheep....<br>
><br>
>On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Scott Castaline<br>
><<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com">skotchman@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
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>> On 01/23/2013 11:33 AM, Jay Lozier wrote:<br>
>> > On 01/23/2013 10:51 AM, Mike Harrison wrote:<br>
>> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Lightner, Jeff wrote:<br>
>> >>> I remember the old days when uucp was the way to go. Also<br>
>> >>> with the cu command you had ~get and ~put options.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Oh dear.. memories of UUCP. Once upon a time I built custom email<br>
>> >> gateways for CC:mail to UUCP and lots of other strange variations<br>
>> >> of UUCP to old non standardized pre-internet email systems.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> At $work, we doing a lot of work with "smart grid" integration,<br>
>> >> which does a lot of store and forward file transfers, meters to<br>
>> >> collectors to communictions engines to.. databases.. and back<br>
>> >> down the chain as well. Every vendor seems to be re-inventing<br>
>> >> their own variation of what we would consider UUCP, without<br>
>> >> standards to bind the vendors together. It's frustrating,<br>
>> >> especially when the 20-something engineer at the metering<br>
>> >> company thinks he has invented store and forward<br>
>> >> communications...<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I often think studying the history of technology is as important<br>
>> >> as the future of technology.<br>
>> > Like why keyboard layouts still use the QWERTY layout has to do<br>
>> > with mechanical typewriters keeping common key pairs from jamming<br>
>> > (or least that is the story I have always heard). Too many people<br>
>> > learned to type on a QWERTY typewriter that it is easier to keep<br>
>> > the layout than to change to another.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Spikey Haired Kid: Why do all these fixed length text files have<br>
>> >> to be so narrow with multiple lines and line format indicators?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Geezer: The data format originated on punch cards.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Kid: What's a punch card?<br>
>> > Ouch, I remember them. How about punched tape?<br>
>> ><br>
>> I remember punched tape. How about toggle switches, rocker switches<br>
>> and red LEDs.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9 Mail.<br>
Please excuse my potential brevity.<br>
<br>
(To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to former<br>
messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong<br>
address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)<br>
<br>
(PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to<br>
call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy<br>
mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very quickly.)<br>
<br>
Ron Frazier<br>
<a href="tel:770-205-9422">770-205-9422</a> (O) Leave a message.<br>
linuxdude AT <a href="http://techstarship.com" target="_blank">techstarship.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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