[ale] If you own (almost) ANY HDD, repartition with 4k boundaries

Geoffrey Myers lists at serioustechnology.com
Tue Jan 8 08:21:25 EST 2013 

I think Jim should get a beer too. And one for me. 

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Geoffrey Myers

On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah. yes. Payment in "restricted sales substances".
> 
> I still think I should get a beer out of this :-)
> 
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
>> It's work for hire.
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> 
>> Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >And since private gambling is technically not allowed in Ga....
>> >
>> >Both of you owe me a beer :-)
>> >
>> >On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
>> >atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Phil Turmel <philip at turmel.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 01/07/2013 10:34 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Phil,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I tried googling around on this for a while but couldn't find
>> >> >> anything conclusive.  I could be wrong about this, but, I would be
>> >> >> willing to bet an entirely trivial amount of money that, if you
>> >> >> install Win XP on bare metal on a 4K drive, with the 1st partition
>> >> >> starting at sector 2048, that you won't be able to boot unless you
>> >> >> replace the boot loader with the one from Vista, 7, or something
>> >like
>> >> >> Grub.  (My English teacher would love that sentence.)  I have no
>> >way
>> >> >> to try this however, so, unless someone tries it or knows the
>> >answer,
>> >> >> it may remain a mystery.
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks to this list, I have M350 mini-itx HTPC parts coming soon.  I
>> >> >can
>> >> >do a quick test of XP to settle this before I put the real system on
>> >it
>> >> >(MythTV frontend).
>> >> >
>> >> >I'd consider the cost of a beverage of choice after the next meeting
>> >to
>> >> >be trivial enough. :-)
>> >> >
>> >> >Phil
>> >>
>> >> Hi Phil,
>> >>
>> >> OK, I guess I left myself open for that.  I'll make the bet under the
>> >> following criteria.  I have to clarify some things so we're on the
>> >same
>> >> page.  Here's what you have to do to win.
>> >>
>> >> You must get Windows XP running on bare metal on an advanced format
>> >HDD ,
>> >> partitioned on 1 MiB boundaries, with XP's own bootloader as follows:
>> >>
>> >> * This bet is between Ron Frazier and Phil Turmel only.  No other
>> >> participants can claim the prize.  Helpers are allowed.
>> >> * Windows XP must be running on bare metal, no virtual machines.
>> >> * The storage medium must be a hard drive, not an ssd or a hybrid
>> >drive.
>> >> * The hard drive must have 4 KB physical sectors.  This must be
>> >documented
>> >> on the hard drive maker's site.  Please provide a link.
>> >> * You may NOT use the jumper on some drives that lies to the pc and
>> >claims
>> >> sector 64 is 63.
>> >> * AFTER the XP installation.  The first partition of the hard drive
>> >must
>> >> begin on sector 2048 according to gparted.  A screenshot of the
>> >gparted
>> >> information screen for that partition will act as proof.  If Windows
>> >XP
>> >> repartitions the drive during installation and changes the beginning
>> >> sector, it must be repartitioned again to put the beginning sector at
>> >2048.
>> >>  The hard should use MBR format.
>> >> * Windows XP must be installed on the first partition.
>> >> * Once the installation is done, Windows XP must boot and load
>> >properly on
>> >> the above referenced hard drive..  A screenshot of the my computer
>> >> properties screen will act as proof.
>> >> * Windows XP must boot with its own native bootloader.  If you have
>> >to
>> >> repair a failed boot sequence, you may use only the Windows XP
>> >install
>> >> disk, not Windows Vista or 7 or 8.  If you use a Linux tool to repair
>> >a
>> >> broken boot sequence, you cannot replace the Windows XP bootloader.
>> >>  Booting to Grub, for example, is not allowed.
>> >> * Results of the testing should be published here to ALE with
>> >screenshots
>> >> linked to in a publicly accessible place.
>> >> * If you get it working, you have to tell the rest of us how you did
>> >it.
>> >>
>> >> If you get it working under these conditions, I will buy you a drink
>> >up to
>> >> $ 5.  If you try and fail, I get the $ 5.
>> >>
>> >> Let me know what you think.  8-)
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Ron
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9
>> >Mail.
>> >> Please excuse my potential brevity.
>> >>
>> >> (To whom it may concern.  My email address has changed.  Replying to
>> >former
>> >> messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the
>> >wrong
>> >> address.  Please send all personal correspondence to the new
>> >address.)
>> >>
>> >> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want
>> >to
>> >> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
>> >energy
>> >> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very
>> >> quickly.)
>> >>
>> >> Ron Frazier
>> >> 770-205-9422 (O)   Leave a message.
>> >> linuxdude AT techstarship.com
>> >>
>> >>
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>> 
>> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9 Mail.
>> Please excuse my potential brevity.
>> 
>> (To whom it may concern.  My email address has changed.  Replying to former
>> messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong
>> address.  Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
>> 
>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
>> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
>> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very quickly.)
>> 
>> Ron Frazier
>> 770-205-9422 (O)   Leave a message.
>> linuxdude AT techstarship.com
>> 
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