[ale] Presentation challenge

Sat Feb 2 02:49:09 EST 2013

Ron, 

Installing a GUI on Linux isn't a big deal. It is like installing any other program.  Heck, install both Mate and Cinnamon and try them out.  It is just a PPA for each, then you choose which you like to run at login.
Of course, I'd test out each GUI in a different user account to limit setting collisions in the ~/.config/ and other dirs under $HOME.

PPAs really are nice, provided the person managing it is competent, trustworthy and maintains it against the main distro repositories.

Not a big deal at all.  Just a few minutes to install on a fast connection.  If you don't like a GUI, remove it from the system.

"Control panel" what's that?  Settings are usually maintained in text files under ~/.config/  No need for a GUI to manage them, though sometimes the XML is easier to handle with some GUI tool. This isn't MS-Windows, the tools are hardly mandatory.

Am I overstating how easy this is?  Anyone?

"Ron Frazier (ALE)" <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:

>Hi Jay L, and Jim L,
>
>Thanks for this info on Cinnamon.  So, it sounds like it's pretty easy
>to put Cinnamon on Ubuntu.  First, I have to upgrade my machines to
>Ubuntu 12.04, which I haven't gotten around to yet.  I'm still
>recovering one of my main machines and installing and tweaking things
>from an upgrade that I did of Windows Vista to Windows 7.  All my data
>is still there, but I had to do a clean OS install because of the
>particular version of Vista and 7 that I was switching between.  So, I
>had to reinstall and reconfigure all the major apps.  So it's a bit of
>a mess.  I may have to do the same thing with all my Ubuntu installs. 
>I don't like that idea, but I've heard more than a few horror stories
>about OS version upgrades, versus installs.  So, in a relatively short
>period of time, I have a whole boat load of OS upgrade / install /
>maintenance to do on multiple computers ... and there are never enough
>free hours in the day ... particularly with other real life things
>interfering.  But, al!
> l the Linux stuff is on my list.
>
>Is it just as easy to install Mate as it is Cinnamon?  I may want to go
>in that direction.
>
>Gnome 2 provides a few key features that I really need in my new
>desktop environment.
>
>1) Full hierarchical menu of all major applications on the system
>2) Movable "panels" that I can park on any edge of the screen, to hold
>running apps (taskbar), status info (system tray), quick access icons,
>the menu itself, the trash can, the speaker icon, the network icon,
>etc.
>3) I particularly want to have a small CPU usage monitor graph on one
>of those panels, which I can do now.  In some cases, I also put a CPU
>frequency monitor and a temperature monitor there.
>
>So, my next question is, can Mate and / or Cinnamon do these things?
>
>My other concern about the new DE's is that Ubuntu has removed many
>options from the control panel and gives the user much less control
>over things such as power settings, special visual effects settings,
>etc.
>
>So, my next question is, do Mate and / or Cinnamon restore this control
>capability to the user?
>
>And, finally, can I potentially have both Mate and Cinnamon on the
>system and switch between them?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron
>
>
>
>Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Ron
>>
>>Following the links from Linux Mint you get this as the 'buntu
>Cinnamon
>>
>>repository
>>
>>https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-stable 
>><https://launchpad.net/%7Egwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-stable>
>>
>>The instructions to install are
>>
>>Add Repo:
>>sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
>>sudo apt-get update
>>
>>Install:
>>sudo apt-get install cinnamon
>>Logout and Change the session to Cinnamon.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 02/01/2013 01:08 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>> I wouldn't mind a presentation on Mint, or on installing Mate or
>>Cinnamon on Ubuntu.  Since my Ubuntu 11.04 expired, I have to figure
>>out whether to fire them and go to Mint or try to put Mate or Cinnamon
>>on Ubuntu 12.04.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Lynch <ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/01/2013 08:20 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>>> Is mint a desktop or a distro? I would put it in the desktop
>group.
>>>> I guess I've never seen a discussion of the difference but since
>>Mint
>>>> doesn't offer a specific server edition, I'll agree with you. Most
>>of
>>>> Mint specific repos are GUI related.
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
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