[ale] [OT] Groklaw shuts down due to potential "forced exposure" issues
Sergio Chaves
sergio.chaves at gmail.com
Thu Aug 22 19:23:11 EDT 2013
I believe that, in time, the folks who now voted for the current US
leadership, will realize that the promises made to them as a quick fix
for equality will become their worst enemy - prices of everything will
go up sharply with non-essential items being the worst.
It is sad to witness the middle class (evil rich?) being brought down
to promote equality rather than investing on the lower class, bringing
them UP on the social pyramid.
The "good" thing is that I've been there and done that. I have a
little advantage on telling my kids what to expect and how to deal
with it.
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM, PairOfTwins
<PairOfTwins at mindspring.com> wrote:
> All:
>
> Recently I visited our two GA senator's websites. I saw Sen Chambliss had a
> whole section on the 2nd amendment, but not 4th or 5th. When I called his
> Atlanta office to ask about the revelations that Mr. Snowden provided, the
> staff said he had no position to offer! I suggested that his oath of office
> obligated him to take a position.
>
> When I called Sen Isakson's DC office, a staffer said that he voted for and
> supports the "amendment". Which amendment? No, it was a "bill". Which bill?
> Long pause... FISA! You mean the Senator supports every provision of every
> version of FISA since Sep 11, 2001? YES he does! I then read to her from the
> Senator's oath of office:
>
> I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
> Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
> that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this
> obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and
> that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which
> I am about to enter: So help me God.
>
> She quickly found a reason to hang up, after assuring me she would pass
> along my concerns.
>
> Tom
> ============================================
>
> On 08/20/2013 11:39 AM, Chuck Payne wrote:
>>
>> Yea, Bush started it and I agree with you, people should have stood up
>> then.
>>
>> What pisses me off the most I can find video of Obama saying he was going
>> to end it. And other videos of him as senator saying how wrong of Bush to do
>> it, but under his sure it has ramped up.
>>
>> There is no excuse. It amazes me that everyone gives him a pass.
>>
>> I am Libertarian. I hate government, I don't need father government. But
>> if you saying thing against this president, the name calling game starts. I
>> am so sick of it. You all the time how people don't approve of what his
>> doing, but won't do anything to stop him.
>>
>> Sorry guys, my family has shed too much blood for this country and I am
>> really sick of the directions it is going. I really wish we could get rid of
>> our two party system because as long both are in power, there is no check
>> and balance, each party is just as bad as the others. Both parties will get
>> away with what ever they want
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com
>> <mailto:JLightner at water.com>> wrote:
>>
>> “Hope and change” implies as has a lot of recent press that this
>> is new under the current President. I remind you these policies
>> were put in place under the previous one.
>>
>> The fact is that it is wrong regardless of which President does it
>> however I’d also note that the Republicans did not fight it when
>> they held Congress under Bush and in fact during the early days of
>> the Patriot act many folks liked to pretend dissent was the same
>> as treason.
>>
>> The Democrats rightly decried the phone spying program before they
>> took over Congress but then to show us it doesn’t matter who is in
>> office not only did they pass a law authorizing it – they made it
>> retroactive to cover what had been done under Bush.
>>
>> However, I’d suggest those who let Bush et al get away with these
>> tactics made it much easier for Obama et al to continue them.
>>
>> A problem with supporting dictators is that even if you like the
>> guy in power now the chances are you won’t like the one who
>> succeeds him.
>>
>> *From:*ale-bounces at ale.org <mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>
>> [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org <mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck Payne
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:15 AM
>> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>> *Subject:* Re: [ale] [OT] Groklaw shuts down due to potential
>>
>> "forced exposure" issues
>>
>> Plutocracy or The United States of Soviet Republic.It sucks, if
>> this was hope and change was, I want my civil freedoms back. I
>> have visited police states, it not fun.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Robert Heaven
>> <roberth1954 at aim.com <mailto:roberth1954 at aim.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I believe the term you're looking for is: Plutocracy
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Courtney Thomas
>> <courtneycthomas at bellsouth.net
>> <mailto:courtneycthomas at bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/2013 8:07 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175
>>
>> What the hell kind of country are we turning into?
>>
>>
>> --
>> -- James P. Kinney III
>> /
>> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail.
>> What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like
>> feeding a dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>>
>> //http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com//
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>> Welcome to the United States of Russia :-( and
>>
>> torture, illegal property seizure, bought elections, voter
>> disenfranchisement, vast global-leading imprisonment, foreign
>> invasions, governmental secrecy, emasculated bought press,
>> cancerous police state encroachments, unconstitutional disregard
>> of individual rights, terrorist labeling of dissent, two
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>> arrogant aggressive foreign policy when we can't even run this
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